Originally Posted by bdschobel
(Post 15778427)
Good idea, though I can't help wondering how many Robert F. Dilleys there are in the United States. I hope only one, but who knows?
Bruce Incidentally, does he really pronounce his name "DIE-lley" (as Phil referred to him) instead of the more usual "DIL-ley" ? |
He pronounced his name "DILL-ee" when he testified. He retired from the regular police department as a respected detective. He has taught at the police academy.
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Originally Posted by bdschobel
(Post 15786692)
The chain of custody was broken when Phil picked up his stuff and walked out of the room. The police could claim -- falsely, of course! -- that Phil himself hit the "delete" button. Without some sort of time-stamp, proving who did what is going to be impossible.
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Originally Posted by bdschobel
(Post 15787010)
He pronounced his name "DILL-ee" when he testified. He retired from the regular police department as a respected detective. He has taught at the police academy.
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Originally Posted by bdschobel
(Post 15787010)
He retired from the regular police department as a respected detective.
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ABQ arrest: He's a John Doe. We don't have to give him anything back, actually.
Originally Posted by TheGolfWidow
(Post 15786595)
Did Phil ever get a receipt for the items they were holding?
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14:39:07 Gallegos So I'm flying with my partner, but um, I got my I.D., um, Also, in one or more of the audio recordings I received via public records request, he is referred to as Bobby, not as Robert. In one or more of the written statements, someone else (De La Peña, if I remember correctly), referred to him as "B. Dilley". Someone uses a Bobby Dilley Facebook account to post on the Albuquerque Police Department wall, as well: Bobby Dilley David you wont have any problem going through the academy. todays academy is mostly class room running of couse, but nothing like the military, and its not like it was when I went through, back then it was more like the military basic training. As far as making the transaition from bos to cadet. well thats something wou will have to handle for yourself. Before making that move simply remember as a police officer you are a public servent. If you are intending to become a police officer only to rise up the ranks as quickly as possible then you wont ever know what it is to be a COP, I retired from APD after twenty years and am still a COP. October 27, 2009 at 3:30pm
Originally Posted by TheGolfWidow
(Post 15786595)
Was there really any chain-of-custody in place while they were holding the stuff??
Originally Posted by TheGolfWidow
(Post 15786595)
Or did they just take his stuff and put it somewhere...and he was lucky to get it, albeit tampered with, when he came back for it?
Originally Posted by Caradoc
(Post 15785789)
Is the "unofficial locker" another threat the cops in ABQ use to try to avoid a "John Doe" booking, as in "If you fail to identify yourself, we'll just throw your stuff away instead of cataloging it?"
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14:48:41 Dilley In regards to booking [inaudible] they have to identify him The "take a seat, sir" part was kind of funny. I was standing near the cage door, watching what they were doing. Officer Dilley told me to sit down, so I immediately sat down -- on the floor next to the door, still watching. Then he told me to sit on the bench, which was at the back of the cage, so I moved there, where I was unable to see them. |
Originally Posted by sethb
(Post 15787664)
I wonder if anybody currently in prison due primarily to the testimony of Dilley (or the other perjurers in this case) could successfully appeal and demand a new trial. There is precedent for that in the case where the police officer in question was convicted of perjury.
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condition surrounding Officer Dilley's retirement; his past testimony; my camera
Originally Posted by bdschobel
(Post 15787010)
He retired from the regular police department as a respected detective. He has taught at the police academy.
Originally Posted by sethb
(Post 15787664)
I wonder if anybody currently in prison due primarily to the testimony of Dilley
Originally Posted by RichardKenner
(Post 15787181)
it's likely possible to set the time on the camera to an arbitrary value at any time
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Originally Posted by RichardKenner
(Post 15787971)
All of it is well within the realm of wrong details. It just so happens that this case (unlike most) depends on details.
There is a reason that the other 'witnesses' were not called to 'testify'-- they all got the details a little more out of the realm of wrong. |
Phil - Don't know how to research what you need but did find this and thought I would contribute in case you could use it and didn't have it -- Dilley was retired and working as a cop out at the airport after retirement. Made about $25+ per hour. Doesn't look like Wiggins or the other guy are listed as retired. Dilley looks young to be retired but then I don't know much about how long it takes for retirement to be an option for a cop or under what reasons a cop can and does retire. In any case here's the link: http://cognosout.cabq.gov/cognos8/cg...ntent%2Ffolder[%
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 15786027)
Phil discovered that the camera memory card had been erased after leaving the the office his camera had been stored in.
Chain of evidence was broken and while we certainly believe we know what happened proving that beyond a reasonable doubt might be difficult and expensive.
Originally Posted by Ari
(Post 15788093)
Be that as it may, the charges, the audio tapes and the deletion of the video tells a story of some very vexatious cops. It seems they tried to give Phil a first-hand lesson in the law (as we heard on the tape) and they did: never trust cops.
There is a reason that the other 'witnesses' were not called to 'testify'-- they all got the details a little more out of the realm of wrong. |
Originally Posted by n4zhg
(Post 15789885)
Moral of the story is to do a sight inventory and function check of all property before you leave. Matter of fact, there should have been an inventory of all property and a receipt listing same given to Phil at the time it was secured/confiscated by the police.
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Originally Posted by n4zhg
(Post 15789885)
Moral of the story is to do a sight inventory and function check of all property before you leave.
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 15786027)
Phil discovered that the camera memory card had been erased after leaving the the office his camera had been stored in.
Chain of evidence was broken and while we certainly believe we know what happened proving that beyond a reasonable doubt might be difficult and expensive. |
Originally Posted by pmocek
(Post 15790026)
It's painful to know that I didn't do so.
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