The end of CX?
Feb 3, 2020, 6:47 pm
#31
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It's proven. Originally its benefit to Chinese pax as they can easily transit to SZX or to others Mainland China area using ground transport after landed HKG
But a lot of Chinese abuse it as a short trip to Hong Kong for shopping.
But a lot of Chinese abuse it as a short trip to Hong Kong for shopping.
Feb 3, 2020, 10:21 pm
#32
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I was skeptical at first
But I was told you can just use a cancellable ticket to satisfy this requirement, even if Immigration Department HKSAR checks it.
Close the border then. We don't control immigration policy, and it's fxcked.
Edit 14:32: I have been further told that PRC NIA will check for foreign stamps for frequent exploiters of this loophole, and not many travelers will risk this loophole if lawful endorsements are available. Although given some countries don't issue visa or passport stamps to PRC passport holders (AU and NZ come to mind), I am not fully convinced this is an effective safeguard.
Last edited by percysmith; Feb 3, 2020 at 11:50 pm
Feb 3, 2020, 11:50 pm
#33
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Thanks
I was skeptical at first
But I was told you can just use a cancellable ticket to satisfy this requirement, even if Immigration Department HKSAR checks it.
Close the border then. We don't control immigration policy, and it's fxcked.
Edit 14:32: I have been told further that PRC NIA may check for foreign stamps for frequent exploiters of this loophole, but this reconciliation is not uniformly enforced.
I was skeptical at first
But I was told you can just use a cancellable ticket to satisfy this requirement, even if Immigration Department HKSAR checks it.
Close the border then. We don't control immigration policy, and it's fxcked.
Edit 14:32: I have been told further that PRC NIA may check for foreign stamps for frequent exploiters of this loophole, but this reconciliation is not uniformly enforced.
Yes, they cannot use this method to fake HK border control too often, but its time to fix the loophole
Feb 4, 2020, 12:31 am
#34
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Feb 4, 2020, 2:03 am
#35
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Feb 4, 2020, 2:31 am
#36
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Cathay Pacific Airways is planning deep flight cuts worldwide, including to about 90 per cent of its services to mainland China, for two months as it combats the fallout from the deadly coronavirus outbreak.
Hong Kong’s battered flagship airline will reduce overall flight capacity by about 30 per cent, its chief operating officer Augustus Tang Kin-wing said on Tuesday.
Hong Kong’s battered flagship airline will reduce overall flight capacity by about 30 per cent, its chief operating officer Augustus Tang Kin-wing said on Tuesday.
Feb 4, 2020, 4:41 am
#37
Join Date: Dec 2013
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Thanks
I was skeptical at first
But I was told you can just use a cancellable ticket to satisfy this requirement, even if Immigration Department HKSAR checks it.
Close the border then. We don't control immigration policy, and it's fxcked.
Edit 14:32: I have been further told that PRC NIA will check for foreign stamps for frequent exploiters of this loophole, and not many travelers will risk this loophole if lawful endorsements are available. Although given some countries don't issue visa or passport stamps to PRC passport holders (AU and NZ come to mind), I am not fully convinced this is an effective safeguard.
I was skeptical at first
But I was told you can just use a cancellable ticket to satisfy this requirement, even if Immigration Department HKSAR checks it.
Close the border then. We don't control immigration policy, and it's fxcked.
Edit 14:32: I have been further told that PRC NIA will check for foreign stamps for frequent exploiters of this loophole, and not many travelers will risk this loophole if lawful endorsements are available. Although given some countries don't issue visa or passport stamps to PRC passport holders (AU and NZ come to mind), I am not fully convinced this is an effective safeguard.
Feb 4, 2020, 5:04 am
#38
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Would help if Immigration Dept released a statement confirming these practices exist, and transit numbers for the last five days.
Feb 4, 2020, 9:17 am
#39
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Legislator Helena Wong Pik-Wan’s brought up the transit issue in Legco press conference
黃碧雲：停止自由行簽注沒有意義
http://news.now.com/home/local/playe...39&refer=Share
黃碧雲：停止自由行簽注沒有意義
http://news.now.com/home/local/playe...39&refer=Share
Feb 4, 2020, 6:02 pm
#40
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Legislator Helena Wong Pik-Wan’s brought up the transit issue in Legco press conference
黃碧雲：停止自由行簽注沒有意義
http://news.now.com/home/local/playe...39&refer=Share
黃碧雲：停止自由行簽注沒有意義
http://news.now.com/home/local/playe...39&refer=Share
But yes it is definitely a big loophole and will not stop mainland Chinese coming to HK for now.
Feb 4, 2020, 6:20 pm
#41
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Whilst that is true, it only gives them up to 7 days to stay at HK. For people who then needs to go to USA or Australia they still need to so somewhere else for another 7 days.
But yes it is definitely a big loophole and will not stop mainland Chinese coming to HK for now.
But yes it is definitely a big loophole and will not stop mainland Chinese coming to HK for now.
Last edited by percysmith; Feb 4, 2020 at 8:58 pm
Feb 4, 2020, 8:51 pm
#42
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To guard against their entry, all passengers have to go through immigration clearance procedures at the immigration counters at the Airport. Doubtful cases will be given secondary examination by immigration officers. A dedicated team of officers conducts detailed examinations on passengers from flights. Intercepted passengers not qualified for entry will be refused permission to land and removed to the last port or place of origin by the first available means.
Source: https://www.sb.gov.hk/eng/special/bound/control.htm
And although not explicitly mentioned, an easy Google Search would reveal that first time offenders would get a DT, second time would get transit time reduce to 2 days instead of 7 days, and third time refused entry.
Feb 5, 2020, 4:34 am
#44
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