kevflyer

Thanks. Actually not that empty. But that's probably because I'm doing a Friday night flight.

itripreport

Hey guys, when flying F on 888, am I entitled to Flagship lounge access at JFK? What about flagship dining?

kevflyer

Normally it would be yes and yes. But 888 ends in JFK and you'd have to clear immigration. Are you connecting in JFK? If not you probably won't be able to get back to airside.

percysmith

Only after 29 March 2020, when the 77K will be flown. Before that 888/865 is the 77A and 11/19 don't have that problem (11 being a better than average seat in the mini-cabin even)

Eagle2000

My bad, I forgot it is the four class plane...

lsquare

I thought CX was cancelling YVR-JFK after 29 March 2020?

kevflyer

They are. Mar 27 are the last flights actually.
The HKG-YVR routes will no longer have 4 cabin 777s.

shd9

I don’t think Flagship First dining can be accessed using a arrival CX boarding pass. CX F pax departing from JFK need to use the invitation to get in (as FFD is strictly for AA F passengers normally), I don’t think you can have them issue a invitation when connecting to another non-CX flight

kevflyer

I can see on AA's website it says it's for AA passengers only. But on CX's website it says:

Which gave me the impression that those flying on CX F can also use Flagship First dining

https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_....html?switch=Y

synthkeys

I don't believe arrival on CX F gives access to FFD unless possibly transiting to AA F. For departing JFK on CX F there's a special arrangement that gives pax access to FFD but I believe this is only at JFK.

s0ssos

Well, if you are "transiting to AA F" you don't need the CX ticket then.

synthkeys

Well, technically access to AA Flagship is restricted to qualifying flights as detailed here -- https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...hip-lounge.jsp
So, if you transiting domestically but not transcontinental, then it's off to the Admirals Club

s0ssos

I think they were talking about Flagship Dining, which is even more restricted.
Getting access to the flagship lounge isn't that hard, relatively, but dining is much harder. If you are going to take a qualifying AA flight then who cares how you arrived. The main question is if you arrived in CX F, and I cannot imagine that anybody cares how you arrived given it isn't an arrival lounge.

ernestnywang

I think this is tricky. CX888/YVRJFK is exactly 5 hours. Oneworld rule is that if you are transiting from a long-haul flight (longer than 5 hours) in J or F to a short-haul flight, you can still access the lounge based on the long-haul sector. I don't know if 5 hours count as longer than 5 hours. Furthermore, in the scope of oneworld rules, F or J alone in North American routes (except any flight to / from MEX and JFK-LAX/SFO and 3-class LAX-BOS/MIA) does not grant pax lounge access, so technically YVR-JFK does not grant pax lounge access, too. It is CX that always makes the exception of giving its pax lounge access at the departing airport. However, when attempting to access lounge when connecting to an AA flight, oneworld rule applies and I'm not sure if one is eligible in this case.

Nevertheless, there shouldn't be a scenario where one can access AC but not FL. FFD is a different thing, but within oneworld rule, if you have access to the AC, you also have access to the FL.

itripreport

Now here's my question, I'm arriving on 888 in first, and I'm connecting on another flight within terminal 8, so I'm aware I'm allowed into the FL, but FD?