Carrier surcharges on Asia Miles redemptions
Aug 5, 2018, 8:06 pm
#1
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Carrier surcharges on Asia Miles redemptions
Sorry this maybe off topic. Please feel free to move to the correct thread.
Does any one know if YQ is supposed to be applied to the whole itinerary originating from HKG or just the segment from HKG? I booked an oneway ticket HKG-SFO (stopover)- LHR (CX and BA). But I was charged $2,059 hkd YQ for this ticket. Is that right?
Does any one know if YQ is supposed to be applied to the whole itinerary originating from HKG or just the segment from HKG? I booked an oneway ticket HKG-SFO (stopover)- LHR (CX and BA). But I was charged $2,059 hkd YQ for this ticket. Is that right?
Aug 6, 2018, 1:55 am
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Sorry this maybe off topic. Please feel free to move to the correct thread.
Does any one know if YQ is supposed to be applied to the whole itinerary originating from HKG or just the segment from HKG? I booked an oneway ticket HKG-SFO (stopover)- LHR (CX and BA). But I was charged $2,059 hkd YQ for this ticket. Is that right?
Does any one know if YQ is supposed to be applied to the whole itinerary originating from HKG or just the segment from HKG? I booked an oneway ticket HKG-SFO (stopover)- LHR (CX and BA). But I was charged $2,059 hkd YQ for this ticket. Is that right?
Aug 6, 2018, 9:32 am
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I have no idea too, but it seems to be the case for BA flights on CX awards. That's why it has been suggested to avoid redeeming BA if possible. On the other hand, the YQ is reasonable when redeeming ex-HKG BA flights by BA Avios.
Aug 6, 2018, 10:24 am
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Aug 6, 2018, 12:44 pm
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Originally Posted by http://www.cad.gov.hk/english/faq.html#passenger_fuel_surcharge
69. Are airlines allowed to levy the passenger fuel surcharge? Do airlines levy the surcharge for flights to and from Hong Kong?
Passenger fuel surcharges allow airlines to partially recover the increase in operating costs due to the fluctuations in aviation fuel prices. In view that the aviation fuel prices had stabilized to a reasonable level and that the corresponding fuel surcharges had been greatly reduced, CAD considered that levying of passenger fuel surcharges was not warranted. Therefore CAD announced on 20 January 2016 that airlines would not be approved to levy passenger fuel surcharges for one-way or round trip tickets issued from 1 February 2016 onwards for flights originating from Hong Kong.
According to the announcement made by CAD on 10 March 2017 (CAD announces time-limited resumption of cargo fuel surcharge), the suspension of passenger fuel surcharge should remain unchanged until further decision to be made after a study on the long-term arrangement of fuel surcharge regulation to be conducted by CAD.
Aviation authorities normally do not regulate tariff for services that originate from a location outside their area. CAD has adopted a similar practice in tariff regulation. Only flights originating from Hong Kong are subject to the regulation of CAD and airlines are not allowed to levy any passenger fuel surcharge for these flights originating from Hong Kong. Whether an airline chooses to levy a passenger fuel surcharge for flights to Hong Kong depends on the airline's policy and the practice of the country the flight originates.
Passenger fuel surcharges allow airlines to partially recover the increase in operating costs due to the fluctuations in aviation fuel prices. In view that the aviation fuel prices had stabilized to a reasonable level and that the corresponding fuel surcharges had been greatly reduced, CAD considered that levying of passenger fuel surcharges was not warranted. Therefore CAD announced on 20 January 2016 that airlines would not be approved to levy passenger fuel surcharges for one-way or round trip tickets issued from 1 February 2016 onwards for flights originating from Hong Kong.
According to the announcement made by CAD on 10 March 2017 (CAD announces time-limited resumption of cargo fuel surcharge), the suspension of passenger fuel surcharge should remain unchanged until further decision to be made after a study on the long-term arrangement of fuel surcharge regulation to be conducted by CAD.
Aviation authorities normally do not regulate tariff for services that originate from a location outside their area. CAD has adopted a similar practice in tariff regulation. Only flights originating from Hong Kong are subject to the regulation of CAD and airlines are not allowed to levy any passenger fuel surcharge for these flights originating from Hong Kong. Whether an airline chooses to levy a passenger fuel surcharge for flights to Hong Kong depends on the airline's policy and the practice of the country the flight originates.
Aug 6, 2018, 11:49 pm
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While HKCAD says the ban only applies to flights originating from Hong Kong, in reality I think most airlines do not charge YQ for sectors to and from HKG for an Ex-HKG itinerary.
If you play with ITA Matrix, you will see from example there is no YQ if you fly HKG-CPH-HKG direct on CX, but there is YQ if you choose HKG-LHR-CPH (LHR-CPH with BA code) and CPH-HKG. Similarly, if you search HKG-MUC return, no YQ for HKG-MUC-HKG direct on LH but YQ if you choose to transit in FRA.
If you play with ITA Matrix, you will see from example there is no YQ if you fly HKG-CPH-HKG direct on CX, but there is YQ if you choose HKG-LHR-CPH (LHR-CPH with BA code) and CPH-HKG. Similarly, if you search HKG-MUC return, no YQ for HKG-MUC-HKG direct on LH but YQ if you choose to transit in FRA.
Aug 7, 2018, 1:55 am
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Just a datapoint, I recently made some redemptions between HKG-BOM.
The taxes/fees on a one way BOM-HKG redemption were way higher than a roundtrip HKG-BOM-HKG so I think there is some truth to ex-HKG tickets not being charged certain fees.
The taxes/fees on a one way BOM-HKG redemption were way higher than a roundtrip HKG-BOM-HKG so I think there is some truth to ex-HKG tickets not being charged certain fees.
Aug 7, 2018, 4:03 am
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I'm not sure which sectors you mean, but certainly a BOM-HKG will have YQ slapped on it which cannot be added to HKG-BOM-HKG.
Aug 7, 2018, 7:50 pm
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Thanks