24left

Ha, thanks for the Kerb info.

The separate arrival and departure sides of T4 will make some people happy and others not so much. Somewhere on either this forum on the SQ one, there was some discussion/explanation for the reason T4 is being set-up this way versus the gate security at the other terminals. Maybe it's more efficient, but the differences and the transfer connections will confuse a lot of people in the short term. IMO.

jagmeets

Ah the English spelling, you mean

Yup- segregated arrivals and departures..

jagmeets

Apparently, that (segregating) is an IATA recommendation..I'm firmly in the camp that likes the mixed setup that the other Terminals have! Arrivals doesn't look & feel depressing!

ermen

who spells it "curbless"...

1010101

I'm of the opposite view. I can't stand the gate security at Changi with the holding pens. I'll be glad to see the back of that in this new terminal.

MKE-MR

Another interesting note from the video, if it's to be believed, is that all arrivals will be via aerobridge. Near the 4 minute mark.
Not sure why they would call the "direct access to transfers" right after the departure bus gate section of the video if it wasn't true--but still seems a hard promise to execute on.

jacobsleather

If you're really keen to know there is an open house at T4 from 7-20 August.

http://t4.changiairport.com/en/openhouse

jagmeets

I'd hate waiting in there too..just that now we typically reach the gate just as boarding's about to finish- Breeze through security and board right away!

FlyPointyEnd

Has CX announced when they will be moving or if any of their flights are doing the test of T4?

jacobsleather

My preference is gate security, just like jagmeets, I get there right at the end or just before. However I have to guess there is a reason why so many other airports do centralised security. The cost of additional X-ray and body scan machines alone must be huge - and when one breaks down, that whole gate is out of action until it can be rectified. But I guess Changi knew that before embarking on T3's design - actually that was probably close to 20 years ago thinking about it!

1010101

It was designed before the days when security was such an issue. No need to confiscate liquids etc.

I often get stuck in the pens because i always go to the QF lounge, some walk from the usual gate D3x and with no boarding announcements.

MKE-MR

Well, you could already see the thinking moving farther away from gate-by-gate security with the "nodes" in T3 serving multiple departure gates. But the principal idea of letting everybody shop (etc) to their hearts' content while waiting for their flight, without having to deal with security until the last minute, never made all that much sense to me.

There were no body scan machines at Changi, by the way, but now some of the T3 nodes do have the L3 machines installed.

I can only think of a few airports in my experience that have mingled arrivals and departures: Changi, KLIA, and Kansas City MCI (ha!). Others? I'm sure there must be...

Anyway, this is getting quite far from CX. Hope somebody who has the (bad) luck to go through the test lets us know how it is! I'm up tomorrow but assume that I would have heard something by now if the flight was operating from T4. Then again, according to articles on the first AirAsia test:
"[Passengers] had been told earlier to gather at T1, where AirAsia now operates from, before being bused to T4 - about three minutes away. On the bus, they were briefed by airport staff on what to expect at the new terminal."

kaka

me too
lts economically unsound and annoying to be stuck at the gate when we should be waiting for final call at the lounge

ermen

I used to be a fan of mix arrivals/departures....

But I am leaning more towards the segregated arrivals / departures... especially on departures due to lounge access...

that said, nothing beats mixed access for turnarounds

ermen

KUL, CMB