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Captain Schmidt Jun 10, 2009 9:50 am


Originally Posted by sxc (Post 11881607)
One thing I find annoying with the new flight map is that at take off and landing, the map reverts to a satellite style view of the ground so you can see exactly where the plane is at that moment....but they overlay it with the stupid text saying how fast the plane is travelling so you can't see the map.

My gripe with what is an otherwise excellent system is the 10 minutes of garbage/in-house advertising you have to endure after take-off. It's one thing on a 12 hour flight but on the way back from Manila it can take up a serious amount of the available time to watch or listen to anything.

sealalula Jun 10, 2009 6:22 pm


Originally Posted by flyingbee (Post 11877689)
I think I had the new system on an A330 in May. My thinking it was the new system is the moving map was very exciting with 3D views ( :o I was doing quite a bit of flying so a new moving map added a bit of novelty and interest). The 747s and A340 with new product I flew on had the traditional moving map.

So you might get the new system on the Airbus and may not on the 747 if my basic interpretation of the systems by their maps is correct.

The 747s and A340 with new product dont have the new 3D map ?
Is the map you are referring to = to the 777-300ER map ??

kchika Jun 10, 2009 6:54 pm

The only aircraft I've not yet been on is the 77A and can confirm that on the three other aircraft with new seats (74A, 34B and 33B) only the 33B has new the 3D route maps.

yiu Jun 10, 2009 7:15 pm


Originally Posted by kchika (Post 11887962)
The only aircraft I've not yet been on is the 77A and can confirm that on the three other aircraft with new seats (74A, 34B and 33B) only the 33B has new the 3D route maps.

Ok so this means only 77A and 33B have the new 3D moving map. I never knew that!
Just for those who are curious, the new airshow system is called "Rockwell Collins 4200D".

midlevels Jun 10, 2009 8:45 pm

Am I the only one who doesn't like the new airshow much? It has really neat graphics and all but it doesn't do a very good job of telling you where you are relative to the world map, which is the whole point.

The older system, while "boring" was at least more clear.

sealalula Jun 10, 2009 9:09 pm


Originally Posted by kchika (Post 11887962)
The only aircraft I've not yet been on is the 77A and can confirm that on the three other aircraft with new seats (74A, 34B and 33B) only the 33B has new the 3D route maps.

Oh so the 74A and 34B has the old normal Map???

The 77A and 33B is the new 3D map

Is that right?

b-hqb Jun 10, 2009 10:53 pm

I am theorising that factory-installed cabins come with the new airshow? That being said, someone needs to have floown on HLP-HLS, LAC and LAD (retrofitted) as well as LAE-LAI (factory-installed) to confirm this.

mosburger Jun 10, 2009 11:35 pm


Originally Posted by chanp (Post 11878650)
As most pointed out, there are plenty. Way more than I could watch. I think you will enjoy their system as I did.

CX has the best IFE on the market currently, IMHO. Compare that to the rubbish that for example LH is offering...

yiu Jun 10, 2009 11:36 pm

On the 77A flights I took, it didn't show the altitude/speed/tail wind or head win, which used to be on the old system. Also, the daily news channel never work! Or was that just me?

flyingbee Jun 11, 2009 12:12 am


Originally Posted by b-hqb (Post 11888921)
I am theorising that factory-installed cabins come with the new airshow? That being said, someone needs to have floown on HLP-HLS, LAC and LAD (retrofitted) as well as LAE-LAI (factory-installed) to confirm this.

I went on the A330 LAI (factory-installed), and that had the 3D airshow.
The A340 I'm guessing was retrofitted, and that had the old airshow.

sealalula Jun 11, 2009 10:02 am


Originally Posted by yiu (Post 11889040)
On the 77A flights I took, it didn't show the altitude/speed/tail wind or head win, which used to be on the old system. Also, the daily news channel never work! Or was that just me?

I was on 77A too, however i saw the altitute/speed/temperature but no head wind or tail wind either.

Worst of all, my entertaiment crashed for about an Hour !!!!
And finally , the FA reset it for me

b-kpf Jun 11, 2009 12:44 pm


Originally Posted by yiu (Post 11889040)
On the 77A flights I took, it didn't show the altitude/speed/tail wind or head win, which used to be on the old system. Also, the daily news channel never work! Or was that just me?

on the first 77A flight i took (on kpb in Aug 2008), there was no altitude, speed, tail wind, etc etc.

however on recent flights (dec, jan, april 2009), there was altitude and speed but no tail/head wind.

i remember trying out the news on the first flight and it didn't work as well. don't know about now...

MW147 Jun 11, 2009 6:45 pm


Originally Posted by midlevels (Post 11888464)
Am I the only one who doesn't like the new airshow much? It has really neat graphics and all but it doesn't do a very good job of telling you where you are relative to the world map, which is the whole point.

The older system, while "boring" was at least more clear.

You are not the only one. I agree. The graphics are great but the info is lacking.

The-Aviator Jun 20, 2009 6:11 pm


Originally Posted by sealalula (Post 11891066)
I was on 77A too, however i saw the altitute/speed/temperature but no head wind or tail wind either.

Worst of all, my entertaiment crashed for about an Hour !!!!
And finally , the FA reset it for me

I would have thought the FA would reset it straight away.

I was on an Emirates flight when my system crashed. I waited a while to see if it would automatically reset but it didn't so while the FA's were serving the meals I asked, and he actually stopped the cart, went and made a call and it reset itself over about five minutes.

It seems that the new hi-tech entertainment system is a tad buggy, hopefully I don't have this problem.

sealalula Jun 21, 2009 11:35 pm


Originally Posted by The-Aviator (Post 11941690)
I would have thought the FA would reset it straight away.

I was on an Emirates flight when my system crashed. I waited a while to see if it would automatically reset but it didn't so while the FA's were serving the meals I asked, and he actually stopped the cart, went and made a call and it reset itself over about five minutes.

It seems that the new hi-tech entertainment system is a tad buggy, hopefully I don't have this problem.

Thats really nice of him.
If i would ask them something if they are serving.

She/He will say.
Please wait in a rude way


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