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Attila123 Apr 2, 2005 11:01 am

"accidently" missed connection
 
I just realized on a long LAX to BKG flight I onlu have about a 90 minute connection time. I am in F and wanted to go to the cabanas and shower, relax. Any idea of what happens if I "accidently" miss the connecting flight? It is the last one out that night. Would they put me up or any ideas for protocol? I dont mind flying next day in J class.

Thanks!

SYDguy Apr 2, 2005 11:10 am

If you're in the cabanas they won't 'let' you miss your flight.

The little old lady who takes your boarding pass will be hammering on your door to get out way to early in any case!

Maniax Apr 2, 2005 11:26 am

How do you even get this idea. If they for what ever reason cannot locate you in the lounge, they will have to unload your lugguage, and the all the people in the airplane wish you to hell because you didnt show up.
I think there should be a little bit more respect to the other people in the airplane.
If you dont want to fly, simply rebook your ticket and find any other place for a shower. Hotels have so many rooms, you can even rent one. If you are flying F, that few Dollars for a room should not bother you.

*shaking head*

Maniax

SYDguy Apr 2, 2005 11:42 am

I just re-read your post and noticed you asked would they "put you up".
That would entirely depend - are you a revenue or redemption psgr?

Maniax makes some very valid points too.

number_6 Apr 2, 2005 2:48 pm

I don't know of any airline that will pay for a hotel room when the pax misses a 90 minute connection; they may if it were 20 min connecting time due to their late arrival. A revenue F ticket does include a hotel room if the first legal connection is the next day (discount F tickets generally do not), but don't get too excited, they use cheap hotels (JL uses NRT Nikko which they own, not bad but not as nice as the Hilton -- so this is not a way to get a free Tokyo hotel night; CX probably uses the Regal by the airport, which is not luxurious by any means).

CX will often hold the plane for you for a few minutes (and send out a search party -- CX ground handling is amazingly efficient at HKG at times), when they know you are in transit and expected to make the flight; missing it deliberately is extremely rude to the other pax and causes some cost to the airline (extra fuel burned if the engines have been started, for example). Maybe there will be a fuel surcharge added to the Cabanas next year.

rkkwan Apr 2, 2005 4:20 pm

Do you really want your name called throughout the whole HKG many times? Thousands of people will know that they're holding a flight just for you. Make sure no one in Hong Kong knows you.

Attila123 Apr 2, 2005 6:25 pm

Maniax (et al)

I dont travel with luggage. Thanks for the input all

newcx12345 Apr 3, 2005 7:17 am

hahahaha such an amusing post.

Cannot believe someone travelling in F would try to skim on one night's hotel.

But all I can say is that if you miss the flight PURPOSELY they might even cancel your ticket as you have broken the carriage contract.

PCheng Apr 3, 2005 3:23 pm

I just don't get it, why would you want to "accidentally" miss your flight?

If you want more time in HK, just book next day's flight and pay for a room. You are paying thousands for the F ticket anyway, surely a couple hundred bucks for a hotel is within your budget?
To put the whole crew, not to mention the hundreds of boarded passengers and Cathay ground personel in limbo just so you can save on a hotel room is not only inconsiderate, but downright rude.

This is the sort of thing I can see Mr Burns do, but never did I imagine anyone would do it in real life.

Attila123 Apr 4, 2005 1:27 pm

PCheng and all,

I am a wheelchair traveller (I have MS) and the HK airport is a killer for me. Sometimes we come into gates 1, 2 or 3 and then I have 90 minutes to get to gates in the 70s. After setting (even in F) more than 6 hours it is very difficult for me. As for why I didn't lay over in HKong there was no through First class space the next 2 days.

If CX hadn't booted me out of my HK positive ticketed F seats 3 times in 5 years I may feel more sympathy for them. I have confirmed tixs in hand and they oversold me too many times to feel much sympathay for them. Actually, even as a wheelchair passenger, I can't remember them "holding" a flight for me either....

FewMiles Apr 4, 2005 1:53 pm

If you don't mind flying the next leg in J, then rebook your connecting flight. You should tell them ahead of time, or even upon arrival in HK. To "accidentally" miss the flight (i.e., deliberately) is to inconvenience many people. If you are in F, you can rebook without penalty.

FewMiles..

PCheng Apr 4, 2005 5:22 pm

Attila, first of all, sorry about your condition.

That said, why are you still flying Cathay if they treat you so bad? I have never been booted out of an F seat, and I can't imagine any airline would do that to their first class passengers, especially one with handicaps. I would have taken my business elsewhere a long time ago if I were you.

If you don't mind flying in J the next day, just book that flight and make accomodation arrangements accordingly. Your plan is most likely not going to work anyway, Hong Kong is swarmed with Cathay personel, so I doubt there is anywhere you can hide that they can't find you.

rkkwan Apr 4, 2005 5:56 pm

Why hide? Why not just leave the airport completely and check into the Regal Airport hotel? You can definitely afford it. And just tell CX later on you're not well, and since you're on a F ticket, they can't or won't cancel the return trip. And I am sure SOME airline will have a F seat for you HKG-BKK the next day.

number_6 Apr 4, 2005 6:17 pm

CX does not oversell F and even if they did a Diamond would never be denied boarding -- someone else would be removed from the flight! In fact almost all airlines do not oversell long-haul F, CX is not that unique in this. I think CX does oversell ID90s and other non-space positive fares, but I don't know as I've never used such a fare. In fact CX has great caution in releasing F inventory to A -- that is how much they protect F from being oversold.

HKG_Flyer1 Apr 4, 2005 7:50 pm


Originally Posted by Attila123
PCheng and all,

I am a wheelchair traveller (I have MS) and the HK airport is a killer for me. Sometimes we come into gates 1, 2 or 3 and then I have 90 minutes to get to gates in the 70s.

I don't understand... everyone I've ever seen arriving in a wheelchair in HKG is provided with a wheelchair escort, which the airline requests in advance. 90 minutes should be plenty of time unless the porter/escort doesn't show up.

As an aside, I have completed well over 100 trips on CX in F class and have never been booted out of my seat, nor have I ever seen or heard of this happening to anyone else (last minute change of equipment excepted, in which case a CX rep met me at the counter and handed several hundred U.S. dollars in cash, which more than compensated me for the fare difference between F and J).


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