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Bruiser Apr 17, 2004 3:43 pm


Originally Posted by number_6
Nothing like this thread, for instance -- cleverly entitled "seat layout in 1st" to keep it from being discovered by those seeking info about the seats in F (there are a dozen others, this discussion really does get very boring after being covered for the 20th time) http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...ferrerid=10425

As a new member of this website, I guess I am not very clever.

number_6 Apr 17, 2004 9:31 pm


Originally Posted by Bruiser
As a new member of this website, I guess I am not very clever.

Don't worry, be happy. Once you reach top-tier on some airline the search function on Flyertalk will start looking more appealing and you too can find these posts within 2 clicks. There is a goldmine of info on FT and it is easy to find, but it does take a click or 2 to reach. The CX forum is particularly rich in some key bits of wisdom mentioned in the past two years, which can double the pleasure of your CX experience. At least it did for me; I try to repay that by continuing to post here, but almost everything has been covered in the past and is easily found (with only about 20% of the past info being obsolete or misleading).

number_6 Apr 17, 2004 9:43 pm


Originally Posted by Bruiser
I certainly agree with you Fliar - and I AM a FC flyer (although mostly with Singapore Airlines)!

Your profile says SQ SilverElite, which means you take about 1 F trip a year on SQ. Or fly F only on non-earning tickets. PPS is pretty easy to reach (even flying J on SQ) and given the benefits it is very worthwhile, all semi-serious SQ flyers have PPS -- but you don't. Sorry for all this info, but you did decide to say "I AM a FC flyer" with choice of capitals, so it did raise the question of what you meant by that with SQ Silver status. Sort of like AA Gold saying they fly AA all the time only in F. This kind of context is sometimes important in answering your questions (the answer for someone who flies once a year is completely different from someone who flies once a week).

Fliar Apr 18, 2004 12:37 am


Originally Posted by number_6
Don't worry, be happy. Once you reach top-tier on some airline the search function on Flyertalk will start looking more appealing and you too can find these posts within 2 clicks.

How terribly condescending - sorry Bruiser you'll have to fly more to be able to use a computer :confused:

It's probably none of my business, but there are many ways of saying the same thing. This is not exactly the most friendly or encouraging.

Anyway, I guess I have to say 'thank you' to Number_6 for proving my point! :D

(now back to the friendly atmosphere of the QF and NZ forums - come down under, it's much more fun!) :)

number_6 Apr 18, 2004 11:19 am


Originally Posted by Fliar
How terribly condescending - sorry Bruiser you'll have to fly more to be able to use a computer

Perhaps you should read what I wrote again, until you do understand its meaning.
FT happens to have a very good search function, which somehow isn't always effective (based on the questions that arise, some of which even state that they searched but didn't find the info). My own experience with search is that it works well and does find the info, but the value of information varies for people based on the amount of travel they do, and this in turn is reflected in how much thought and effort they put into composing their search. Sometimes it is hard to believe they took more than 5 seconds in composing their search (and not finding the answer). My comments were wry observations of this phenomena (perhaps with too much subtlety for some of the nuances), and a gentle suggestion that the info is there, it can be easily found by searching, and doing the search is more time effective than asking the question (over and over again).
To bring this back on topic (CX F), I've noticed quite a change in the cabin composition in the past year. The cabin is more crowded and with passengers who don't know their way around (but act politely and try to be unobtrusive). I know CX limits F awards, so I'm guessing that there is a fair bit of upgrading going on (probably op-ups, as it is hard to purchase an upgrade on CX). Is CX overselling Y and J more aggressively this year, and relying on rolling the cabins? I've noticed this on LHR-HKG, HKG-NRT and HKG-LAX so I presume it is system-wide. To the credit of CX there has been no dilution of service with the greater number of passengers in F (unlike some other airlines that really aren't prepared to have a full cabin).

HKG_Flyer1 Apr 18, 2004 11:38 am


Originally Posted by number_6
I've noticed quite a change in the cabin composition in the past year. The cabin is more crowded and with passengers who don't know their way around (but act politely and try to be unobtrusive). I know CX limits F awards, so I'm guessing that there is a fair bit of upgrading going on (probably op-ups, as it is hard to purchase an upgrade on CX). Is CX overselling Y and J more aggressively this year, and relying on rolling the cabins? I've noticed this on LHR-HKG, HKG-NRT and HKG-LAX so I presume it is system-wide.

I had lunch yesterday with a frequent J class traveler on CX who mentioned that he has been getting more upgrades to F this past year. Not exactly a scientific sample, but a useful data point, none the less.

Bruiser Apr 18, 2004 2:14 pm

[QUOTE=number_6]Your profile says SQ SilverElite, which means you take about 1 F trip a year on SQ. Or fly F only on non-earning tickets. PPS is pretty easy to reach (even flying J on SQ) and given the benefits it is very worthwhile, all semi-serious SQ flyers have PPS -- but you don't. Sorry for all this info, but you did decide to say "I AM a FC flyer" with choice of capitals, so it did raise the question of what you meant by that with SQ Silver status. Sort of like AA Gold saying they fly AA all the time only in F. This kind of context is sometimes important in answering your questions (the answer for someone who flies once a year is completely different from someone who flies once a week).[/QUOT

We fly First Class all the time, paying for it all the time (not on expense account) - not once a week, but at least ffive or six times a year, and have been doing so for many, many years on many different airlines. And as someone mentioned, seating arrangements change from time to time. But I don't need to justify what I do to you and while I appreciate whatever information you have given me, don't think I will log on to this particular forum again. Don't need the aggravation with what has been, up til now, a pretty polite and agreeable site -- (perhaps I would have impressed you more if I had lied about my frequent flier status?)

Bruiser Apr 18, 2004 2:18 pm


Originally Posted by Fliar
How terribly condescending - sorry Bruiser you'll have to fly more to be able to use a computer :confused:

It's probably none of my business, but there are many ways of saying the same thing. This is not exactly the most friendly or encouraging.

Anyway, I guess I have to say 'thank you' to Number_6 for proving my point! :D

(now back to the friendly atmosphere of the QF and NZ forums - come down under, it's much more fun!) :)

Thanks Fliar, couldn't agree more! And what I meant about I AM a FC traveler, mostly on SQ is that I would fly them rather than CX - didn't mean any offense to you.

prudentbear Apr 20, 2004 10:58 am


Originally Posted by Bruiser
Thanks Fliar, couldn't agree more! And what I meant about I AM a FC traveler, mostly on SQ is that I would fly them rather than CX - didn't mean any offense to you.

Definitely notice a lot of bitterness here. Let's keep the things in perspective. Flyertalk is a forum - it means exchange of information and ldeas. This is definitely not a forum to demand answers.

I think the whole thread shifted a wrong way with following posting from Bruiser - "I guess what I wanted to know was best seating, period." This not a way to communicate with other fellow flyertalk members.

Frequentflyer99 Apr 21, 2004 10:26 am

Fo what its worth on BA (which also has a closet) 1A and 1K are reserved for BA Premier, Gold and VIP pax. They are considered by BA and those on the BA board to be the best in the house and most people there would give their eye teeth for them. I can't imagine on CX it is any different.

christep Apr 21, 2004 10:35 am


Originally Posted by Frequentflyer99
BA (which also has a closet)

I'll say it again since there seems to still be some confusion. On CX on the B747 there is NO closet at the front of the cabin. If you are in 1A/K then all you have directly in front of you is the video screen, and in the middle, between the seats, is a large arty black and white photo on the front wall.


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