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percysmith Feb 3, 2025 10:44 pm

I hope Iberia allowed some sort of extended earning period for you, because this is really a customer-unfriendly practice of CX, disrupting partner earn.

dcas Feb 4, 2025 1:49 am


Originally Posted by Wolkenwandler (Post 36867998)
Dear all, I truly appreciate your responses and the information you’ve shared. I once flew PE on a trip from FRA to HKG (Seat 30A) and earned 500 Elite points for Iberia. Initially, the aircraft was scheduled to be an Airbus A350-1000, but it was changed to a Boeing 777-300 by the time of the flight. The experience wasn’t significantly different from Economy, though it was acceptable at a cost of 2.5 euros per point. However, this time, it would have cost 13 euros per point, which is less appealing. Usually I pay 1.1 euro per point when I fly with Iberia.

For this journey, I booked my ticket over six months in advance, initially expecting to fly on an Airbus A350-1000. I selected seat 60A in Economy Flex. However, I noticed the aircraft was changed again to a Boeing 777-300. Before the flight, I contacted Iberia to confirm how many Elite points I would earn, but the answers varied. I assumed I would receive 400 Elite points for this flight, which would have been more than enough for the 200 Elite points needed for an upgrade to Iberia + Platino (OWE).

It’s been a learning experience. Moving forward, if I need flexibility and more Status points for CX, I’ll book Economy Flex, but if I’m crediting points to Iberia, I’ll opt for PE.

There is no scenario where Y earns more EP on IB than W, even if it's full fare economy. The chart is pretty straightforward:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/36132895-post11.html

The only 'complicated' part is confirming which economy fares fall into full fare vs discount buckets.

If you got 500 EP for a PE flight once before, that would mean 425 EP for the FRA-HKG leg + a 601-1500 mile flight in full fare economy on one end for 75 EP.

dcas Feb 4, 2025 1:51 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 36868280)
I hope Iberia allowed some sort of extended earning period for you, because this is really a customer-unfriendly practice of CX, disrupting partner earn.

IB qualifying year 2024 ends March 31, so OP has some time to make up the difference.

The math seems a bit off though. How did OP get 100 EP if FRA-HKG is under 6000 miles? Should receive 90 EP according to the chart.

Either way 100 or 110 more EP aren't too difficult to gain.

Wolkenwandler Feb 4, 2025 3:04 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 36868280)
I hope Iberia allowed some sort of extended earning period for you, because this is really a customer-unfriendly practice of CX, disrupting partner earn.

Dear Percysmith. Thank you for sharing the link and for your kind wishes. The calendar year for Iberia Plus runs until 31-MAR-2025. I was informed that if I reach 6,250 Elite points, my status will be automatically upgraded to Platino even before this date. The missing 100 Elite points can be earned with a one-way flight from FRA to MAD in J, which I booked for 14-MAR-2025.

Wolkenwandler Feb 4, 2025 3:30 am


Originally Posted by dcas (Post 36868482)
There is no scenario where Y earns more EP on IB than W, even if it's full fare economy. The chart is pretty straightforward:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/36132895-post11.html

The only 'complicated' part is confirming which economy fares fall into full fare vs discount buckets.

If you got 500 EP for a PE flight once before, that would mean 425 EP for the FRA-HKG leg + a 601-1500 mile flight in full fare economy on one end for 75 EP.

Dear dcas. Thankyou for your response. Please refer to the screenshot taken from my Iberia app. It appears that the FRA to HKG route falls within the range of 6,001 to 7,500 miles. According to the Iberia US site, 500 Elite points will be awarded for PE.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...19148dd0c.jpeg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...2663e5ab1.jpeg


dcas Feb 4, 2025 5:04 am

Thanks for the update.

Interesting that IB counts FRA-HKG in the 6000+ band since it's over 300 miles short of that threshold. That's far from the first IB IT easter egg, at least this time it's in the customer's favor!

Wolkenwandler Feb 4, 2025 9:52 am


Originally Posted by dcas (Post 36868796)
Thanks for the update.

Interesting that IB counts FRA-HKG in the 6000+ band since it's over 300 miles short of that threshold. That's far from the first IB IT easter egg, at least this time it's in the customer's favor!

I think I noticed on the touchscreen entertainment system onboard Cathay Pacific that the flight distance from FRA to HKG is over 6,000 miles. I will take a photo on 13-FEB-2025 during my return trip to confirm this.

pf007 Feb 6, 2025 8:40 pm


Originally Posted by Wolkenwandler (Post 36869423)
I think I noticed on the touchscreen entertainment system onboard Cathay Pacific that the flight distance from FRA to HKG is over 6,000 miles. I will take a photo on 13-FEB-2025 during my return trip to confirm this.

for mileage purposes, 'flight distance' is calculated by GC distance not actual miles flown....

percysmith Feb 6, 2025 9:32 pm


Originally Posted by pf007 (Post 36876281)
for mileage purposes, 'flight distance' is calculated by GC distance not actual miles flown....

Great Circle or TPM?

Wolkenwandler Feb 7, 2025 9:55 pm


Originally Posted by pf007 (Post 36876281)
for mileage purposes, 'flight distance' is calculated by GC distance not actual miles flown....

Iberia calculates Avios for oneworld Alliance partner flights using the real distance flown.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...59f57b448.jpeg

Wolkenwandler Feb 14, 2025 12:49 am

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...47a73624c.jpeg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...46bad9c06.jpeg

PaulC852 Feb 14, 2025 1:55 am


Originally Posted by Wolkenwandler (Post 36878969)
Iberia calculates Avios for oneworld Alliance partner flights using the real distance flown.

That can't be literally true - it would mean that every individual flight would be different.


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