4 seats in the F cabin or 4 seats occupied or unoccupied? Are you on a CX plane?

Both, or all three - lol

The F cabin had 4 (empty) seats, the biz had 40 with only 4 occupied and yes it is CX I'm talking about - love that airline. I've taken this route over 20 times. Yet I've still rarely seen anyone up front and the time they bumped me I was alone up there. (I didn't mind, but thought geez, wider seat for double the price - BFD)

All CX planes that have F have 6 seats in the F cabin. This has been the case for several years.

In the past 2 decades I guess, there were aircrafts with 8, 9, 12, and 18 F seats. To my knowledge, in the past 2 decades, CX has never had any plane with an F cabin of just 4 seats.

FYI, all current CX aircrafts that have an F cabin have 53 J seats, but I guess if you only did a rough count or if you missed the forward mini cabin, you could have thought that there were only 40 seats.

It looks like Cathay has updated their august schedule and removed all first class from august - at least from us flights. Sept 1 & onward still shows F availability as sept hasn’t been updated yet.

interestingly, aircraft types on these routes still show 777-300er and seat maps still show f. It’s just not bookable. So perhaps they’re keeping the option value open to start running 777s in aug.

Well, I have been downgraded from First to Business on August 1 so I guess my only option is to cancel the flight.

I stand corrected!

I thought the mini cabin of biz seats was behind the main one, so it shows what I know - lol

I've done Biz class over 20 times now PDX-CEB, and *thought* was paying attention, but.....

I've only gotten bumped the one time to F - but I was up there alone

Seems we're kinda persona non grata right now, EU, Canada, even Mexico doesn't want us.

Frankly, your evidence is not credible, besides the 4-seat factual error.
SFO is Tech heavy and LAX is Movie heavy. Zero F seats occupied on 24 or 23 flights out of 25 makes no sense. Besides pax paying F, lots of J pax try to use miles to upgrade or OW pax try to get F awards.
I have travelled many times in CX F in past 5 years (including SFO once), and tried the miles upgrade or award route unsuccessfully many times. It happens, but it is rare to see an empty seat..

I'm working on booking summer travel for 2021. What are the odds that CX is running F to LAX and LHR in late July? (I know nobody has a crystal ball, just curious of your all predictions, assuming worldwide vaccine rollout goes fairly well and demand starts increasing by spring.)

Just FYI CX has rostered 77W with F cabin to LAX, SFO and JFK in Feb 2021 as I am currently booked on two of the flights in F already (outbound to LAX and inbound from JFK). Of course this is highly subject to change and with what has happened this year so far I won't be surprised if they swap in A350 to fly instead closer to departure date.

Unfortunately, I was booked in F outbound from LAX late Jan and it got swapped last week to an A350
I guess we will see how Feb ones hold up...

Any updates ex JFK? I have an F booking made recently but wondering if I should be looking at JAL instead?

Might be of more assistance if you list origin/destination/month of trvel.

Sorry, HKG to JFK, end of April.

Frankly, no one knows, not even CX.
For the summer season (starting end-March), the full schedule with 3 daily flights, all with F, is a placeholder. Not all three will operate.
And JL schedule is no more assured. If HKG is your final destination, connection in Tokyo is currently very difficult/impossible.
CX841 is scheduled with F from February, so that is your best bet.

My own two cents. CX position is to be a premium airline. If they don't offer F to its major premium-heavy destinations (JFK, LAX, SFO, LHR..), they will destroy their image.

Thanks for the insight. I have 844 booked right now. Will cross my fingers and hope!