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An acquisition/rescue by CA would be consistent with the central government’s strategy for SOEs to increase their influence in the HK economy. I’m sure it would be easy to find an SOE bank willing to back CA...
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Originally Posted by CXYYZ
(Post 32172757)
An acquisition/rescue by CA would be consistent with the central government’s strategy for SOEs to increase their influence in the HK economy. I’m sure it would be easy to find an SOE bank willing to back CA...
Though I still doubt it would be CA to acquire HX since they already own a big part of CX. CN doesn't usually put its eggs in one basket, and spreads distressed assets into a few companies (e.g. 4 AMCs to bail out the banks in the past, various banks to bail out the securities firms, IPF vs CDB to bail out Anbang/HNA). Besides HX likely has a complicated ownership structure that could have varying opinions on any deal on the table (think similar to UO), so I wouldn't spend too much time speculating on any one possible deal. |
When everyone comes begging for $ to survive, I wouldn't rely on that central government strategy to hold every time anymore. We live in extraordinary times these days ..
https://www.scmp.com/business/compan...vid-19-ravages There won't be enough money to help everyone. |
Originally Posted by ernestnywang
(Post 32164640)
I would lean on this, too. Could it be that CX and CA agreed to have CA take over HX, but HX will no longer compete with CX? Sort of going back to the relationship CX and KA had from the 1990s to early 2000s.
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Originally Posted by Reply1984
(Post 32192702)
Like many other airlines, CX are trying to preserve cash. Meanwhile, HNA needs cash. CA could hold HX assets but let CX make important decisions for HX.
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang
(Post 32193031)
How would that work from a contract point of view?
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Originally Posted by Reply1984
(Post 32192702)
Like many other airlines, CX are trying to preserve cash. Meanwhile, HNA needs cash. CA could hold HX assets but let CX make important decisions for HX.
what assets? The aircraft are all leased, slots won’t be in short supply, crew will be available. |
Originally Posted by peasant
(Post 32196146)
what assets? The aircraft are all leased, slots won’t be in short supply, crew will be available.
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang
(Post 32193031)
How would that work from a contract point of view?
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Originally Posted by Reply1984
(Post 32192702)
let CX make important decisions for HX.
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Originally Posted by Reply1984
(Post 32196800)
CA can work as a passive investor, or appoint CX management to manage the company. HNA has done that before: sell majority stake of a subsidiary airline to local government, but they reach a deal with the government so that HNA still operates the airline. You can see it as means of financing.
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What would happen to CX if Air China takes Hong Kong Airlines over?
Sources confirmed that as part of the recovery plan for HNA Group, HK Airlines will be sold to CNAC and a consortium of investors. The valuation is agreed and due diligence is in progress.
So far Air China (and the Beijing people) owns 29.99% of CX. I don’t believe mainland investors are allowed to fully own a HK registered airline. This creates a conflict of interest between CX and HX - there are some competition. Plus - how can the regulators be satisfied? Giving up slots/routes at HKG? If HX is to be injected into CX group, Air China is already holding upper limit of CX shares. I don’t see Swire paying for HX - if they want to buy HX they would have had bought it last November. |
Originally Posted by SKRan
(Post 32225954)
Sources confirmed that as part of the recovery plan for HNA Group, HK Airlines will be sold to CNAC and a consortium of investors. The valuation is agreed and due diligence is in progress.
So far Air China (and the Beijing people) owns 29.99% of CX. I don’t believe mainland investors are allowed to fully own a HK registered airline. This creates a conflict of interest between CX and HX - there are some competition. Plus - how can the regulators be satisfied? Giving up slots/routes at HKG? If HX is to be injected into CX group, Air China is already holding upper limit of CX shares. I don’t see Swire paying for HX - if they want to buy HX they would have had bought it last November. |
Originally Posted by brunos
(Post 32226413)
Any speculation is pure fiction today. It depends in part on how CX will survive. CX, like all airlines, will need a massive injection of cash. Some countries seem ready to save their national airlines with taxpayer money. What about CX?
If CA is taking HX over, sell HKG slots to CX at a reasonable price then wind down HX orderly then it seems to be the best use of capital at the moment. |
Originally Posted by SKRan
(Post 32225954)
So far Air China (and the Beijing people) owns 29.99% of CX. I don’t believe mainland investors are allowed to fully own a HK registered airline.
Originally Posted by SKRan
(Post 32225954)
This creates a conflict of interest between CX and HX - there are some competition.
Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 32160019)
While my first impression of the CA takeover of HX was "weird...", I now rationalise it's just really CA probably obtaining the all or majority of HX shares ([b]PPB be damned...). CX (in the ideal case, where minority shareholders' interests are respected) won't share any info flow with CA and CA's shareholding of CX will go totally passive.
Originally Posted by SKRan
(Post 32225954)
Plus - how can the regulators be satisfied? Giving up slots/routes at HKG?
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