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Leaping_Deere Jun 8, 2019 4:01 am

Changing a Open Jaw ticket
 
Asking for experience. I'm looking to change a open jaw ticket with CX, I need to get rid of the PVG-HKG leg and just return it to a standard LHR-HKG round trip. Anyone done something similar before? Was it possible? Shall I expect a massive fare change?

Just for clarification, my original booking is LHR-HKG then PVG-LHR via HKG so it’s Ex LHR and booked from UK and I haven’t departed yet.

ernestnywang Jun 8, 2019 4:10 am


Originally Posted by Leaping_Deere (Post 31182191)
Asking for experience. I'm looking to change a open jaw ticket with CX, I need to get rid of the PVG-HKG leg and just return it to a standard LHR-HKG round trip. Anyone done something similar before? Was it possible? Shall I expect a massive fare change?

Just for clarification, my original booking is LHR-HKG then PVG-LHR via HKG so it’s Ex LHR and booked from UK and I haven’t departed yet.

Without date of original purchase, departure date, and fare basis, no one can help you.

sxc Jun 8, 2019 4:22 am

Search for your new route as if you were buying a new ticket. This is likely to be your new fare plus whatever change fees are applicable. This assumes your ticket is refundable/changeable.

Leaping_Deere Jun 8, 2019 4:24 am


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 31182197)
Without date of original purchase, departure date, and fare basis, no one can help you.

Fare ILAURGB8

purchased in march, flight 24th August

brunos Jun 8, 2019 12:27 pm

Be ready for a hefty cost.
As sxc suggests, you can get some idea of the fare differential itself.

Kacee Jun 8, 2019 7:22 pm

Yes it's going to be expensive. You are currently fared LHR-PVG, with a stopover in HKG. LHR-HKG is a completely different fare and it's going to be nearly twice as expensive (assuming I inventory is available for your travel dates). Also, your ticket has a 350 GBP change fee.

ernestnywang Jun 9, 2019 1:29 am


Originally Posted by Leaping_Deere (Post 31182221)
Fare ILAURGB8

purchased in march, flight 24th August

If you wait till you got to PVG and then change the inbound, you can use historical fare, and in that case, I think the 350GBP change fee is all you have to pay, although I'm not 100% sure how CX interprets "NEW TICKET MUST BE EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN THE PREVIOUS TICKET". I hope it just means that you cannot get any refund. However, you risk not having inbound I class availability the date / flight you want. I would say pay close attention to any tool you might have that has accurate UK POS availability.

As you are re-routing, if you change now, you can only use current fare to re-price, so it will be expensive.

Look at the bolded part below for details.
Code:

FQ31MAR19LHRPVG24AUG19-CX‡BI«                                 
LON-SHA      CXR-CX      SAT 24AUG19                    GBP 
ET  0/ 0/ 1  VN  0/ 0/ 1  AZ  0/ 0/ 1  SU  0/ 0/11  LH  0/ 0/33
LX  0/ 0/ 3  OS  0/ 0/ 2  IB  0/ 0/ 2  BA  2/ 0/ 0  AC  0/ 0/ 1
UA  0/ 0/ 2  SK  0/ 0/ 1  EK  0/ 0/10  KL  0/ 0/10  TK  0/ 0/ 7
AI  0/ 0/ 3  QF  0/ 0/ 2  CX  0/ 0/33  SQ  0/ 0/10  GS  0/ 0/ 1
CA  1/ 0/14  JL  0/ 0/13  CI  0/ 0/ 1  HU  0/ 0/ 2  MH  0/ 0/ 4
NH  0/ 0/ 4  CZ  0/ 0/ 6  KE  0/ 0/ 4  AF  0/ 0/14  EY  0/ 0/ 4
QR  0/ 0/ 5  GA  0/ 0/ 1  AY  0/ 0/ 4  BR  0/ 0/ 1  MU  1/ 0/ 8
MK  0/ 0/ 1  VS  1/ 0/ 2  TG  0/ 0/ 2  OZ  0/ 0/ 1             
//SEE FQHELP FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEW FARE DISPLAYS//     
  SURCHARGE FOR PAPER TICKET MAY BE ADDED WHEN ITIN PRICED     
CX    LONSHA.EH      24AUG19          MPM  8167             
  V  FARE BASIS AP  FARE-OW  FARE-RT BK  SEASON  MINMAX  RTG
  1    ILAURGB8  -            1850.00 I‡21APR-31AUG -/ 6M EH01
  2    IAAARGB8  45            3060.00 I‡  ---      -/ 6M EH02
  3    IAARRGB8  -            3580.00 I‡  ---      -/ 6M EH02
                                                               
EH01*  /WITHIN THE EASTERN HEMISPHERE/ PUBLISHED RTG 547       
      TRAVEL MUST BE VIA HKG                                 
      1. LON-CX-HKG-CX/KA-SHA                                 
EH02*  /WITHIN THE EASTERN HEMISPHERE/ PUBLISHED RTG 5181     
      TRAVEL MUST BE VIA HKG                                 
      1. LON-CX-HKG-CX/KA-SHA                                ‡
RD1*16«                                                       
  V  FARE BASIS AP  FARE-OW  FARE-RT BK  SEASON  MINMAX  RTG
  1    ILAURGB8  -            1850.00 I‡21APR-31AUG -/ 6M EH01
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT                AUTO PRICE-YES             
FROM-LON TO-SHA    CXR-CX    TVL-24AUG19  RULE-0151 IPREUAS/4 
FARE BASIS-ILAURGB8          SPECIAL FARE  DIS-E  VENDOR-ATP 
FARE TYPE-BX      RT-BUSINESS CLASS EXCURSION                 
GBP  1850.00  0547  E08MAR19 D29JAN20  FC-ILAURGB8  FN-       
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 07MAR19/1814  EXPIRES 21MAY19/1315     
                                                               
16.PENALTIES                                                   
  ORIGINATING AREA 2 -                                       
    CANCELLATIONS                                             
                                                               
      ANY TIME                                               
        CHARGE GBP 400.00 FOR CANCEL/REFUND.                 
                                                               
    ANY TIME                                                 
        CHARGE GBP 400.00 FOR NO-SHOW.                       
        NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.     
          1. IN THE EVENT OF NO-SHOW CHARGE BOTH               
          CANCELLATION FEE AND NO SHOW FEE                     
          2. CHILD/INFANT WITHOUT SEAT/INFANT WITH SEAT -     
          NO DISCOUNT APPLIES TO PENALTY FEE                  ‡
MD«                                                           
          3. WHEN THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH ANOTHER FARE -    ‡
          CHARGE THE HIGHEST PENALTY FEE WITHIN THE           
          PRICING UNIT                                         
          4. THE LOCAL ADMINISTRATION/SERVICE/HANDLING FEE     
          MAY APPLY                                           
                                                               
    CHANGES                                                   
                                                               
      ANY TIME                                               
        CHARGE GBP 350.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
           
                                                               
    ANY TIME                                                 
        CHARGE GBP 400.00 FOR NO-SHOW.                       
        NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.     
          1. IN THE EVENT OF NO-SHOW CHARGE BOTH CHANGE FEE   
          AND NO-SHOW FEE.                                     
          2. CHANGE OF AIRPORT WITHIN ONE CITY DOES NOT       
          CONSTITUTE AS REROUTING.                             
          3. CHANGE MUST BE MADE WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY.       
          4. PENALTY FEE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION PER PERSON.   
          5. INFANT WITHOUT SEAT - NO PENALTY FEE APPLIES.     
          6. CHILD/INFANT WITH SEAT - NO DISCOUNT APPLIES     
          TO PENALTY FEE.                                      ‡
MD«                                                           
          7. WHEN THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH ANOTHER FARE -    ‡
          CHARGE THE HIGHEST PENALTY FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE   
          COMPONENT PER TICKET.                               
          8. WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER       
          FARE - COLLECT FARE DIFFERENCE AND PENALTY FEE       
          IF APPLICABLE.                                       
          9. WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE   
          - NO REFUND OF FARE DIFFERENCE AND COLLECT PENALTY   
          FEE IF APPLICABLE.                                   
          10. TICKET MUST BE REVALIDATED/REISSUED BEFORE       
          ORIGINAL FLIGHT/DATE/TIME OR ELSE NO-SHOW WILL       
          APPLY.                                               
          11. THE LOCAL ADMINISTRATION/SERVICE/HANDLING FEE   
          MAY APPLY.                                           
          ////////////  REPRICING CONDITIONS  /////////////   
          ----------------                                     
          BEFORE DEPARTURE                                     
          ----------------                                     
          RE-PRICE WITH BELOW OPTIONS AND PROVIDE THE BEST     
          FARE TO PASSENGER -                                 
          1. IF SAME ROUTING AND BOOKING CLASS -               
            USE ANY CX/KA HISTORICAL FARE FOR RE-PRICE AND   
            NEW TICKET MAY BE EQUAL/HIGHER OR LOWER THAN      ‡
MD«                                                           
            THE PREVIOUS TICKET OR                            ‡
          2. IF SAME ROUTING BUT DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS -     
            USE ANY CX/KA HISTORICAL FARE FOR RE-PRICE AND   
            NEW TICKET MUST BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN           
            PREVIOUS TICKET OR                               
          3. USE ANY CURRENT CX/KA FARE FOR RE-PRICE AND NEW   
            TICKET MUST BE EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN THE     
            PREVIOUS TICKET.
                                 
          ---------------                                     
          AFTER DEPARTURE                                     
          ---------------                                     
          RE-PRICE WITH BELOW OPTIONS AND PROVIDE THE BEST     
          FARE TO PASSENGER -                                 
          1. IF SAME ROUTING AND BOOKING CLASS - USE ANY       
            CX/KA HISTORICAL FARE FOR RE-PRICE AND NEW       
            TICKET MAY BE EQUAL/HIGHER OR LOWER THAN THE     
            PREVIOUS TICKET OR                               
          2. USE ANY HISTORICAL CX/KA FARE FOR RE-PRICE AND   
            NEW TICKET MUST BE EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN     
            THE PREVIOUS TICKET.
                             
.                                                             
FQ31MAR19LHRHKG24AUG19-CX‡BI«                                 
LON-HKG      CXR-CX      SAT 24AUG19                    GBP 
ET  0/ 0/ 1  VN  0/ 0/ 4  SU  0/ 0/ 4  LH  0/ 0/16  LX  0/ 0/ 6
IB  0/ 0/ 6  BA  2/ 0/ 0  AA  0/ 0/33  AC  0/ 0/ 2  UA  0/ 0/ 3
SK  0/ 0/ 2  EK  0/ 0/18  SA  0/ 0/ 1  KL  0/ 0/ 5  UL  0/ 0/ 1
TK  0/ 0/ 7  AI  0/ 0/ 1  HX  0/ 0/ 3  QF  0/ 0/ 1  CX  6/ 0/ 2
SQ  0/ 0/18  CA  0/ 0/15  JL  0/ 0/17  NZ  0/ 0/ 3  CI  0/ 0/ 2
HU  0/ 0/ 1  MH  0/ 0/ 6  NH  0/ 0/ 2  KE  0/ 0/ 2  AF  0/ 0/ 5
EY  0/ 0/ 3  RJ  0/ 0/ 1  QR  0/ 0/12  GA  0/ 0/ 2  AY  0/ 0/ 8
BR  0/ 0/ 3  MU  0/ 0/ 2  MK  0/ 0/ 1  VS  1/ 0/ 0  TG  0/ 0/ 5
OZ  0/ 0/ 3  PR  0/ 0/ 2                                       
//SEE FQHELP FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEW FARE DISPLAYS//     
  SURCHARGE FOR PAPER TICKET MAY BE ADDED WHEN ITIN PRICED     
CX    LONHKG.EH      24AUG19          MPM  8163             
  V  FARE BASIS AP  FARE-OW  FARE-RT BK  SEASON  MINMAX  RTG
  1    ILAVRGB8  -            1655.00 I‡11JUL-06SEP 7/ 3M EH01
  2    IAA5RGB8  45            3370.00 I‡  ---      7/ 6M EH02
  3    IAAARGB8  45            3700.00 I‡  ---      7/ 6M EH02
                                                               
EH01*  /WITHIN THE EASTERN HEMISPHERE/ PUBLISHED RTG 587       
      1. LON-CX-HKG                                           
EH02*  /WITHIN THE EASTERN HEMISPHERE/ PUBLISHED RTG 5180     
      1. LON-CX-HKG                                           
.                                                             
FQLHRHKG24AUG19-CX‡BI«                                         
LON-HKG      CXR-CX      SAT 24AUG19                    GBP 
ET  0/ 0/ 1  VN  0/ 0/ 4  SU  0/ 0/ 4  LH  0/ 0/16  LX  0/ 0/ 6
IB  0/ 0/ 6  BA  2/ 0/ 0  AA  0/ 0/33  AC  0/ 0/ 2  UA  0/ 0/ 3
SK  0/ 0/ 2  EK  0/ 0/18  SA  0/ 0/ 1  KL  0/ 0/ 5  UL  0/ 0/ 1
TK  0/ 0/ 7  AI  0/ 0/ 1  HX  0/ 0/ 3  QF  0/ 0/ 1  CX  6/ 0/ 2
SQ  0/ 0/18  CA  0/ 0/15  JL  0/ 0/17  NZ  0/ 0/ 3  CI  0/ 0/ 2
HU  0/ 0/ 1  MH  0/ 0/ 6  NH  0/ 0/ 2  KE  0/ 0/ 2  AF  0/ 0/ 5
EY  0/ 0/ 3  RJ  0/ 0/ 1  QR  0/ 0/12  GA  0/ 0/ 2  AY  0/ 0/ 8
BR  0/ 0/ 3  MU  0/ 0/ 2  MK  0/ 0/ 1  VS  1/ 0/ 0  TG  0/ 0/ 5
OZ  0/ 0/ 3  PR  0/ 0/ 2                                       
//SEE FQHELP FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEW FARE DISPLAYS//     
  SURCHARGE FOR PAPER TICKET MAY BE ADDED WHEN ITIN PRICED     
CX    LONHKG.EH      24AUG19          MPM  8169             
  V  FARE BASIS AP  FARE-OW  FARE-RT BK  SEASON  MINMAX  RTG
  1    IAA5RGB8  45            3370.00 I‡  ---      7/ 6M EH01
  2    IAAARGB8  45            3700.00 I‡  ---      7/ 6M EH01
                                                               
EH01*  /WITHIN THE EASTERN HEMISPHERE/ PUBLISHED RTG 5180     
      1. LON-CX-HKG                                           
.


Leaping_Deere Jun 10, 2019 3:06 am


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 31184470)
If you wait till you got to PVG and then change the inbound, you can use historical fare, and in that case, I think the 350GBP change fee is all you have to pay, although I'm not 100% sure how CX interprets "NEW TICKET MUST BE EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN THE PREVIOUS TICKET". I hope it just means that you cannot get any refund. However, you risk not having inbound I class availability the date / flight you want. I would say pay close attention to any tool you might have that has accurate UK POS availability.

As you are re-routing, if you change now, you can only use current fare to re-price, so it will be expensive.

Look at the bolded part below for details.

Code:

FQ31MAR19LHRPVG24AUG19-CX‡BI«
LON-SHA CXR-CX SAT 24AUG19 GBP
ET 0/ 0/ 1 VN 0/ 0/ 1 AZ 0/ 0/ 1 SU 0/ 0/11 LH 0/ 0/33
LX 0/ 0/ 3 OS 0/ 0/ 2 IB 0/ 0/ 2 BA 2/ 0/ 0 AC 0/ 0/ 1
UA 0/ 0/ 2 SK 0/ 0/ 1 EK 0/ 0/10 KL 0/ 0/10 TK 0/ 0/ 7
AI 0/ 0/ 3 QF 0/ 0/ 2 CX 0/ 0/33 SQ 0/ 0/10 GS 0/ 0/ 1
CA 1/ 0/14 JL 0/ 0/13 CI 0/ 0/ 1 HU 0/ 0/ 2 MH 0/ 0/ 4
NH 0/ 0/ 4 CZ 0/ 0/ 6 KE 0/ 0/ 4 AF 0/ 0/14 EY 0/ 0/ 4
QR 0/ 0/ 5 GA 0/ 0/ 1 AY 0/ 0/ 4 BR 0/ 0/ 1 MU 1/ 0/ 8
MK 0/ 0/ 1 VS 1/ 0/ 2 TG 0/ 0/ 2 OZ 0/ 0/ 1
//SEE FQHELP FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEW FARE DISPLAYS//
SURCHARGE FOR PAPER TICKET MAY BE ADDED WHEN ITIN PRICED
CX LONSHA.EH 24AUG19 MPM 8167
V FARE BASIS AP FARE-OW FARE-RT BK SEASON MINMAX RTG
1 ILAURGB8 - 1850.00 I‡21APR-31AUG -/ 6M EH01
2 IAAARGB8 45 3060.00 I‡ --- -/ 6M EH02
3 IAARRGB8 - 3580.00 I‡ --- -/ 6M EH02

EH01* /WITHIN THE EASTERN HEMISPHERE/ PUBLISHED RTG 547
TRAVEL MUST BE VIA HKG
1. LON-CX-HKG-CX/KA-SHA
EH02* /WITHIN THE EASTERN HEMISPHERE/ PUBLISHED RTG 5181
TRAVEL MUST BE VIA HKG
1. LON-CX-HKG-CX/KA-SHA ‡
RD1*16«
V FARE BASIS AP FARE-OW FARE-RT BK SEASON MINMAX RTG
1 ILAURGB8 - 1850.00 I‡21APR-31AUG -/ 6M EH01
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES
FROM-LON TO-SHA CXR-CX TVL-24AUG19 RULE-0151 IPREUAS/4
FARE BASIS-ILAURGB8 SPECIAL FARE DIS-E VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-BX RT-BUSINESS CLASS EXCURSION
GBP 1850.00 0547 E08MAR19 D29JAN20 FC-ILAURGB8 FN-
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 07MAR19/1814 EXPIRES 21MAY19/1315

16.PENALTIES
ORIGINATING AREA 2 -
CANCELLATIONS

ANY TIME
CHARGE GBP 400.00 FOR CANCEL/REFUND.

ANY TIME
CHARGE GBP 400.00 FOR NO-SHOW.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
1. IN THE EVENT OF NO-SHOW CHARGE BOTH
CANCELLATION FEE AND NO SHOW FEE
2. CHILD/INFANT WITHOUT SEAT/INFANT WITH SEAT -
NO DISCOUNT APPLIES TO PENALTY FEE ‡
MD«
3. WHEN THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH ANOTHER FARE - ‡
CHARGE THE HIGHEST PENALTY FEE WITHIN THE
PRICING UNIT
4. THE LOCAL ADMINISTRATION/SERVICE/HANDLING FEE
MAY APPLY

CHANGES

ANY TIME
CHARGE GBP 350.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.


ANY TIME
CHARGE GBP 400.00 FOR NO-SHOW.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
1. IN THE EVENT OF NO-SHOW CHARGE BOTH CHANGE FEE
AND NO-SHOW FEE.
2. CHANGE OF AIRPORT WITHIN ONE CITY DOES NOT
CONSTITUTE AS REROUTING.
3. CHANGE MUST BE MADE WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY.
4. PENALTY FEE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION PER PERSON.
5. INFANT WITHOUT SEAT - NO PENALTY FEE APPLIES.
6. CHILD/INFANT WITH SEAT - NO DISCOUNT APPLIES
TO PENALTY FEE. ‡
MD«
7. WHEN THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH ANOTHER FARE - ‡
CHARGE THE HIGHEST PENALTY FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
COMPONENT PER TICKET.
8. WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER
FARE - COLLECT FARE DIFFERENCE AND PENALTY FEE
IF APPLICABLE.
9. WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE
- NO REFUND OF FARE DIFFERENCE AND COLLECT PENALTY
FEE IF APPLICABLE.
10. TICKET MUST BE REVALIDATED/REISSUED BEFORE
ORIGINAL FLIGHT/DATE/TIME OR ELSE NO-SHOW WILL
APPLY.
11. THE LOCAL ADMINISTRATION/SERVICE/HANDLING FEE
MAY APPLY.
//////////// REPRICING CONDITIONS /////////////
----------------
BEFORE DEPARTURE
----------------
RE-PRICE WITH BELOW OPTIONS AND PROVIDE THE BEST
FARE TO PASSENGER -
1. IF SAME ROUTING AND BOOKING CLASS -
USE ANY CX/KA HISTORICAL FARE FOR RE-PRICE AND
NEW TICKET MAY BE EQUAL/HIGHER OR LOWER THAN ‡
MD«
THE PREVIOUS TICKET OR ‡
2. IF SAME ROUTING BUT DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS -
USE ANY CX/KA HISTORICAL FARE FOR RE-PRICE AND
NEW TICKET MUST BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN
PREVIOUS TICKET OR
3. USE ANY CURRENT CX/KA FARE FOR RE-PRICE AND NEW
TICKET MUST BE EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN THE
PREVIOUS TICKET.

---------------
AFTER DEPARTURE
---------------
RE-PRICE WITH BELOW OPTIONS AND PROVIDE THE BEST
FARE TO PASSENGER -
1. IF SAME ROUTING AND BOOKING CLASS - USE ANY
CX/KA HISTORICAL FARE FOR RE-PRICE AND NEW
TICKET MAY BE EQUAL/HIGHER OR LOWER THAN THE
PREVIOUS TICKET OR
2. USE ANY HISTORICAL CX/KA FARE FOR RE-PRICE AND
NEW TICKET MUST BE EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN
THE PREVIOUS TICKET.

.
FQ31MAR19LHRHKG24AUG19-CX‡BI«
LON-HKG CXR-CX SAT 24AUG19 GBP
ET 0/ 0/ 1 VN 0/ 0/ 4 SU 0/ 0/ 4 LH 0/ 0/16 LX 0/ 0/ 6
IB 0/ 0/ 6 BA 2/ 0/ 0 AA 0/ 0/33 AC 0/ 0/ 2 UA 0/ 0/ 3
SK 0/ 0/ 2 EK 0/ 0/18 SA 0/ 0/ 1 KL 0/ 0/ 5 UL 0/ 0/ 1
TK 0/ 0/ 7 AI 0/ 0/ 1 HX 0/ 0/ 3 QF 0/ 0/ 1 CX 6/ 0/ 2
SQ 0/ 0/18 CA 0/ 0/15 JL 0/ 0/17 NZ 0/ 0/ 3 CI 0/ 0/ 2
HU 0/ 0/ 1 MH 0/ 0/ 6 NH 0/ 0/ 2 KE 0/ 0/ 2 AF 0/ 0/ 5
EY 0/ 0/ 3 RJ 0/ 0/ 1 QR 0/ 0/12 GA 0/ 0/ 2 AY 0/ 0/ 8
BR 0/ 0/ 3 MU 0/ 0/ 2 MK 0/ 0/ 1 VS 1/ 0/ 0 TG 0/ 0/ 5
OZ 0/ 0/ 3 PR 0/ 0/ 2
//SEE FQHELP FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEW FARE DISPLAYS//
SURCHARGE FOR PAPER TICKET MAY BE ADDED WHEN ITIN PRICED
CX LONHKG.EH 24AUG19 MPM 8163
V FARE BASIS AP FARE-OW FARE-RT BK SEASON MINMAX RTG
1 ILAVRGB8 - 1655.00 I‡11JUL-06SEP 7/ 3M EH01
2 IAA5RGB8 45 3370.00 I‡ --- 7/ 6M EH02
3 IAAARGB8 45 3700.00 I‡ --- 7/ 6M EH02

EH01* /WITHIN THE EASTERN HEMISPHERE/ PUBLISHED RTG 587
1. LON-CX-HKG
EH02* /WITHIN THE EASTERN HEMISPHERE/ PUBLISHED RTG 5180
1. LON-CX-HKG
.
FQLHRHKG24AUG19-CX‡BI«
LON-HKG CXR-CX SAT 24AUG19 GBP
ET 0/ 0/ 1 VN 0/ 0/ 4 SU 0/ 0/ 4 LH 0/ 0/16 LX 0/ 0/ 6
IB 0/ 0/ 6 BA 2/ 0/ 0 AA 0/ 0/33 AC 0/ 0/ 2 UA 0/ 0/ 3
SK 0/ 0/ 2 EK 0/ 0/18 SA 0/ 0/ 1 KL 0/ 0/ 5 UL 0/ 0/ 1
TK 0/ 0/ 7 AI 0/ 0/ 1 HX 0/ 0/ 3 QF 0/ 0/ 1 CX 6/ 0/ 2
SQ 0/ 0/18 CA 0/ 0/15 JL 0/ 0/17 NZ 0/ 0/ 3 CI 0/ 0/ 2
HU 0/ 0/ 1 MH 0/ 0/ 6 NH 0/ 0/ 2 KE 0/ 0/ 2 AF 0/ 0/ 5
EY 0/ 0/ 3 RJ 0/ 0/ 1 QR 0/ 0/12 GA 0/ 0/ 2 AY 0/ 0/ 8
BR 0/ 0/ 3 MU 0/ 0/ 2 MK 0/ 0/ 1 VS 1/ 0/ 0 TG 0/ 0/ 5
OZ 0/ 0/ 3 PR 0/ 0/ 2
//SEE FQHELP FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEW FARE DISPLAYS//
SURCHARGE FOR PAPER TICKET MAY BE ADDED WHEN ITIN PRICED
CX LONHKG.EH 24AUG19 MPM 8169
V FARE BASIS AP FARE-OW FARE-RT BK SEASON MINMAX RTG
1 IAA5RGB8 45 3370.00 I‡ --- 7/ 6M EH01
2 IAAARGB8 45 3700.00 I‡ --- 7/ 6M EH01

EH01* /WITHIN THE EASTERN HEMISPHERE/ PUBLISHED RTG 5180
1. LON-CX-HKG
.


I don't mind paying a bit more but double might be a hard hit.

I'm quite tempted to try and change it after I've departed on my LHR-HKG outbound flight and see what happens.

Is that actually possible?

Kacee Jun 10, 2019 7:10 am


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 31184470)
If you wait till you got to PVG

As I read the OP, he's not going to PVG, that's the issue.

Originally Posted by Leaping_Deere (Post 31187581)
I'm quite tempted to try and change it after I've departed on my LHR-HKG outbound flight and see what happens.

Are you going to PVG, or just HKG? If you're not going to PVG, you'll have to refare the ticket.

ernestnywang Jun 10, 2019 8:06 am


Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 31188010)
As I read the OP, he's not going to PVG, that's the issue.

Are you going to PVG, or just HKG? If you're not going to PVG, you'll have to refare the ticket.

Ok I re-read the post. If I understand correctly, OP has a ticket of LHR-HKG//PVG-xHKG-LHR and want to change it to LHR-HKG-LHR. In this case, of course OP can change it when he arrives at HKG, provided that there's I class on the day he wants to fly inbound.

Kacee Jun 10, 2019 8:38 am


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 31188143)
Ok I re-read the post. If I understand correctly, OP has a ticket of LHR-HKG//PVG-xHKG-LHR and want to change it to LHR-HKG-LHR. In this case, of course OP can change it when he arrives at HKG, provided that there's I class on the day he wants to fly inbound.

OP's current fare ( ILAURGB8) is an LHR-PVG fare. LHR-HKG (no PVG) is a completely different fare. It's going to refare.

ernestnywang Jun 10, 2019 8:51 am


Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 31188231)
OP's current fare ( ILAURGB8) is an LHR-PVG fare. LHR-HKG (no PVG) is a completely different fare. It's going to refare.

Yes, a re-fare would be needed, but after the first segment is used, historical fare at the time of original ticket purchase can be used. I however made it clear that "I'm not 100% sure how CX interprets 'NEW TICKET MUST BE EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN THE PREVIOUS TICKET'" and that "I hope it just means that [OP] cannot get any refund."

Kacee Jun 10, 2019 9:25 am


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 31188266)
Yes, a re-fare would be needed, but after the first segment is used, historical fare at the time of original ticket purchase can be used.

Not surprisingly, the historical fare LHR-HKG is nearly 2x the LHR-PVG fare.


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 31188266)
however made it clear that "I'm not 100% sure how CX interprets 'NEW TICKET MUST BE EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN THE PREVIOUS TICKET'" and that "I hope it just means that [OP] cannot get any refund."

That's what that language typically means. You apply the ticket value to the new fare, but no refund if the new fare is cheaper.

ernestnywang Jun 10, 2019 10:10 am


Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 31188373)
Not surprisingly, the historical fare LHR-HKG is nearly 2x the LHR-PVG fare.

That's what that language typically means. You apply the ticket value to the new fare, but no refund if the new fare is cheaper.

No, the historical fare for LHR-HKG is cheaper than LHR-PVG for I class. See my post above.

I have the same interpretation as yours, but we are not CX and it is up to CX to interpret.

Kacee Jun 10, 2019 11:05 am


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 31188549)
No, the historical fare for LHR-HKG is cheaper than LHR-PVG for I class. See my post above.

How do you get that? ILAURGB8 (LHR-PVG) is $2408. The cheapest LHR-HKG is ILAVRGB8 at $3499. That has a 7 day minimum stay requirement. If OP is staying less than 7 days, the cheapest LHR-HKG would be DAA5OGB8 at $4601.


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