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yohy Feb 6, 2019 5:42 am

It's been very helpful for me to finally decide to stop accruing asia miles wherever possible

I only am able to book fairly close to.departure which means only the most expensive flights are available.

Now I send CC spend to QF or BA and have no problem redeeming.

As a result I book cheaper fare classes and less frequently on CX and no longer feel any need to chase MPC status (OW ruby is far cheaper to obtain elsewhere and gets me priority bag tags seat selection and boarding on CX).

I cant be the only one who's been prompted to look for a better deal...

rickywk Feb 6, 2019 6:09 am

EU area and low season, you still able to get 2x business seat easily. You can even get direct EU - HK flight if you lucky enough.
But for AU/NZ region, AM is useless now.

ermen Feb 6, 2019 9:37 am

im losing interest in the AM program now
wonder how they are seeing yields now they've gutted the program.
pisses people off and makes them less engaged.
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kamchatsky Feb 6, 2019 1:25 pm


Originally Posted by rickywk (Post 30745447)
EU area and low season, you still able to get 2x business seat easily. You can even get direct EU - HK flight if you lucky enough.
But for AU/NZ region, AM is useless now.

Agree, trying to look for Syd-hkg and there were no standard award available for all classes. Switch to QFF I get 4 * PE award available on CX. Go figure.

percysmith Feb 8, 2019 11:57 pm


Originally Posted by ermen (Post 30746203)
im losing interest in the AM program now
wonder how they are seeing yields now they've gutted the program.
pisses people off and makes them less engaged.
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(c.f. https://onemileatatime.com/book-holiday-travel/ )

One of the features sustaining AM valuations was the ability to pick off peak day seats well in advance of travel day and ahead of everyone else.

Take that feature away and AM valuation should tank. Rightly. If they think they can flog those seats for cash then by all means do so - bury the AM golden goose with the diseased African swine (alive)...

I'm not earning a commission from this but how many of you have seen the 1.5% cash rebate card from ICBC https://www.icbcasia.com/ICBC/%E6%B5...pe/default.htm (silly name I know but the rewards are certainly not silly)

rickywk Feb 9, 2019 12:47 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 30756516)




(c.f. https://onemileatatime.com/book-holiday-travel/ )

One of the features sustaining AM valuations was the ability to pick off peak day seats well in advance of travel day and ahead of everyone else.

Take that feature away and AM valuation should tank. Rightly. If they think they can flog those seats for cash then by all means do so - bury the AM golden goose with the diseased African swine (alive)...

I'm not earning a commission from this but how many of you have seen the 1.5% cash rebate card from ICBC https://www.icbcasia.com/ICBC/%E6%B5...pe/default.htm (silly name I know but the rewards are certainly not silly)

HKG-CTS is always one of the famous route during CNY, combined with Sapporo Snow Festival effect most of direct route seats filled by HK and CN tour group pax.

percysmith Feb 9, 2019 3:23 am

Not just that. Anything coming back from Vancouver in March, too. Standard only starting to become available.

ermen Feb 17, 2019 6:34 am

Seeing another whip whip smack smack moment

e.g.

HKG-SIN (J class) in CX around CNY next year, say 23/24 Jan 2020, see plenty of J seats on BA / QF

Searching through AM Standard - ZILCH!

percysmith Feb 17, 2019 6:57 am

Choice or tailored?

ermen Feb 17, 2019 7:34 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 30788637)
Choice or tailored?

tailored is available.
but why would i want to redeem tailored J HKG-SIN? The standard cost (25K) is more expensive than BA already!
it really is them fleecing their captive AM members - want to redeem? use tailored at some ridiculous price

(i'm not 100% complaining because on some routes - HKG to India, AM has much better availability than partners...)

key here is flexibility with mileage currency i think

percysmith Feb 17, 2019 8:09 am


Originally Posted by ermen (Post 30788746)
it really is them fleecing their captive AM members - want to redeem? use tailored at some ridiculous price

Price differentiation - same principle as LH suing people who skip their last leg.

FlyPointyEnd Feb 17, 2019 5:53 pm


Originally Posted by ermen (Post 30788581)
Seeing another whip whip smack smack moment

e.g.

HKG-SIN (J class) in CX around CNY next year, say 23/24 Jan 2020, see plenty of J seats on BA / QF

Searching through AM Standard - ZILCH!

Been seeing this more and more...and its really pathetic that AM can't offer Standard redemption while BA/QF can.

percysmith Feb 17, 2019 8:21 pm


Originally Posted by FlyPointyEnd (Post 30790739)
Been seeing this more and more...and its really pathetic that AM can't offer Standard redemption while BA/QF can.

Not can't, don't want to

Australians: "GDay! Have this great fare!"
Poms: "Super! Have this great fare!"
HKers: "驚喜價!". And bring out the medieval torture instruments

and

FlyPointyEnd Feb 17, 2019 10:05 pm


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 30791113)
Not can't, don't want to

Australians: "GDay! Have this great fare!"
Poms: "Super! Have this great fare!"
HKers: "驚喜價!". And bring out the medieval torture instruments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew1edqVqCu0 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecBEqWeipWs

That's true, the last time I raised the issue I was basically told since it was peak season, they believe they can sell the seats anyway...

fallinasleep Feb 17, 2019 10:17 pm


Originally Posted by ermen (Post 30788581)
Seeing another whip whip smack smack moment

e.g.

HKG-SIN (J class) in CX around CNY next year, say 23/24 Jan 2020, see plenty of J seats on BA / QF

Searching through AM Standard - ZILCH!

Wait, BA/QF are offering J award seats on CX metal but AM isn't (for the same flights)?

How long has this been going on?


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