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chunhw2792 Jan 6, 2019 11:25 pm


Originally Posted by FlyPointyEnd (Post 30620692)
Transit is only possible if departing to a 3rd country...I believe this has been in place before the whole mistake fare issue. Hence, direct turn on your last leg will not be possible.

Someone wrote about it here..

I will enter into Vietnam and depart. Not the direct transit that Dominicus tried. Trying to see if that's possible

FlyPointyEnd Jan 6, 2019 11:46 pm


Originally Posted by chunhw2792 (Post 30620722)
I will enter into Vietnam and depart. Not the direct transit that Dominicus tried. Trying to see if that's possible

If you will be doing a direct turn, I doubt you can do it in 50mins. Immigration in Vietnam in my experience takes 20-30 mins

chunhw2792 Jan 6, 2019 11:59 pm


Originally Posted by FlyPointyEnd (Post 30620768)
If you will be doing a direct turn, I doubt you can do it in 50mins. Immigration in Vietnam in my experience takes 20-30 mins

So regarding that, I wonder biz class will allow me to access the SkyPriority immigration line. If not, 55min transit is probably not possible. Have already contacted CX regarding this

chunhw2792 Jan 7, 2019 5:37 pm


Originally Posted by FlyPointyEnd (Post 30620768)
If you will be doing a direct turn, I doubt you can do it in 50mins. Immigration in Vietnam in my experience takes 20-30 mins

Alright, I am trying below instead after some more research. Playing safe and I get back to Hong Kong on Monday

KA299 HKG - HAN
07-07-2019 05:45 pm - 06:55 pm

NX897 HAN - MFM
07-07-2019 11:00 pm - 02:00 am +1

Audio Jan 7, 2019 7:05 pm

Why is nobody taking the opportunity and spending a day or 2 in Vietnam?? Then there will be no drama, would it?

(Audio)

FlyPointyEnd Jan 7, 2019 9:18 pm


Originally Posted by Audio (Post 30625047)
Why is nobody taking the opportunity and spending a day or 2 in Vietnam?? Then there will be no drama, would it?

(Audio)

Decided to do that...and decided to fly SQ into Hanoi

chunhw2792 Jan 7, 2019 9:32 pm


Originally Posted by Audio (Post 30625047)
Why is nobody taking the opportunity and spending a day or 2 in Vietnam?? Then there will be no drama, would it?

(Audio)

I am travelling around Hanoi before my trip to NYC. I don't need to do that twice... :p

Starz20 Jan 7, 2019 9:36 pm

Just wondering can i re-schedule the last leg of my (HAN - HKG - YVR - HKG - HAN) which is HKG - HAN to a later day?
i notice the fare class was J in HKG - HAN leg, will a reprice involved?

Firemin Jan 7, 2019 9:40 pm


Originally Posted by chunhw2792 (Post 30620794)
So regarding that, I wonder biz class will allow me to access the SkyPriority immigration line. If not, 55min transit is probably not possible. Have already contacted CX regarding this

Last time I flew J into Vietnam (KA to SGN) I was turned away from the Sky Priority/APEC line at immigration (as I was not on a VN flight) - although to be honest the queue for Sky Priority was just as long as the normal queues.

On the other hand, when I flew Y into DAD immigration took all of 5 mins (there was hardly any line/queuing as the flight was the only international one landing at that time).

orbitmic Jan 8, 2019 12:17 am

The question of whether airlines would be in a good legal position or not to reprice a ticket where the passenger does not fly the last leg is one of the most frequently (and circularly) discussed on virtually all FT airline fora. A few jurisdictions have tested the question of whether airlines can cancel a ticket where a passenger misses a segment (e.g. Germany) with mixed results for passengers (e.g. cannot cancel but can charge the appropriate fare).

In terms of passengers missing last legs as a one off, I'm not aware that airlines frequently take action, but where missing last legs is done repeatedly, there has been repeat evidence that airlines will strike occasionally but sharply. For instance, a few years ago, in the Business Traveller "Ask Alex" column, a frequent flyer from a major European airline complained that the airline had cancelled his frequent flyer card and confiscated all miles on it as punishment for such hidden city ticketing. From the discussion in the magazine, the airline stuck to its guns. On the BA forum, a travel agent was issued with massive debit memos (ie bills) for passengers "missing" last segments after booking through them and the airline even lost some of its BA ticketing privileges for a while. On the AA forum, it was reported that after some passengers "missed" a few of their last segments, the airline sent impressively built security staff to the passengers' arrivals gate, politely informing them that since they seemed to have found it difficult to find the gate of their last flight in the past, the passengers had the choice of being escorted either to said gate or to the ticket counter where their tickets would be repriced if they did not intend to board it. Etc.

Another classic is indeed about checking visas as discussed upthread but also entry credentials. Most countries will require that visitors hold an exit ticket before entering the country. CX has been extraordinarily fair play in honouring those major mistakes without any issue and personally, I think that anyone who's benefitted and can't be bothered to at least play by the ticket rules is not only really stretching their luck but also taking very significant risks. If it were me, I'd ensure that I were squeaky clean because the potential losses should a local CX station manager decides to pay hard balls are very significant. As for questions on repricing, on most airlines, the rule of thumb is that tickets are repriced at current fares if changed before departure. If changed after the first flight, they are usually repriced at historical fares but that implies that the original rules still be met and knowing whether your new itinerary would meet that condition or not is often a difficult thing to figure out unless you know a lot about ticketing rules.

In short, unless you like to live dangerously, if you got one/some of those, just fly exactly what you have, respect all of your conditions, and take all appropriate measures to adapt your other travel plans to the ticket as it is or don't be surprised if your dream ticket turns into a nightmare.

IncyWincy Jan 8, 2019 2:28 am

orbitmic, very well said.

Cambo Jan 8, 2019 3:43 am

I wish, that orbitmic message would be communicated in the bloggosphere, in stead of all the proud and opportunistic "can do cheat" messages, with the "not my fault, if" disclaimer at the end.

Pay for what you fly, so to say.

callmedtop Oct 24, 2019 5:51 pm

Any actual updates on this, rather than speculation that Cathay has actually banned the NYE fare from short-checking? I am flying BOS-HKG-HAN and would like to drop HKG-HAN and short-check bags. I have a ~12 hour layover in HKG and the HAN segment is on KA metal.

driveswith Oct 24, 2019 6:25 pm


Originally Posted by callmedtop (Post 31663508)
Any actual updates on this, rather than speculation that Cathay has actually banned the NYE fare from short-checking? I am flying BOS-HKG-HAN and would like to drop HKG-HAN and short-check bags. I have a ~12 hour layover in HKG and the HAN segment is on KA metal.

If you don't get the response you need I suggest you do as I did and extend the stay in HKG. If I recall correctly, it was less than $100 USD and allowed me to get my luggage and move on. Saying that, I did spend some time touring in Vietnam and loved it, so if you can squeeze in even 48 hours I'm sure you wont regret it.

Jane's Addiction Oct 24, 2019 7:24 pm


Originally Posted by callmedtop (Post 31663508)
Any actual updates on this, rather than speculation that Cathay has actually banned the NYE fare from short-checking? I am flying BOS-HKG-HAN and would like to drop HKG-HAN and short-check bags. I have a ~12 hour layover in HKG and the HAN segment is on KA metal.

Enjoy Hanoi


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