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hl176 Oct 8, 2018 1:48 am

Will CX ever bring back comped DM with Centurion?
 
See thread title.

What's the likelihood

FlyPointyEnd Oct 8, 2018 2:12 am

I hope not

kaka Oct 8, 2018 2:40 am


Originally Posted by FlyPointyEnd (Post 30290702)
I hope not

+1

fakecd Oct 8, 2018 4:00 am

its probably easier to get centurion than cx DM so why shud they?

garykung Oct 8, 2018 4:11 am


Originally Posted by hl176 (Post 30290663)
What's the likelihood

When CX seriously needs revenues from new sources, this will be possible.


Originally Posted by fakecd (Post 30290894)
its probably easier to get centurion than cx DM so why shud they?

It is actually easier to get DM than Centurion.

Centurion is still a by-invitation only card. DM is a status you can earn as soon as you can go that far.

hl176 Oct 8, 2018 4:21 am


Originally Posted by garykung (Post 30290920)
When CX seriously needs revenues from new sources, this will be possible.



It is actually easier to get DM than Centurion.

Centurion is still a by-invitation only card. DM is a status you can earn as soon as you can go that far.

Not really; there are ways to get it without an invitation.

AmD950 Oct 8, 2018 4:28 am

No. Don't. Never. Not. Noooo please.

sscywong Oct 8, 2018 10:05 am


Originally Posted by garykung (Post 30290920)
When CX seriously needs revenues from new sources, this will be possible.

Guess CX should already knows that those comp DM didn't fly CX much... Many of them fly other airlines and use the F lounges (yes now they can't even I know)... Nor they bring in much revenue to CX per se as they can fly other OW airlines

ernestnywang Oct 8, 2018 11:04 am


Originally Posted by sscywong (Post 30291959)
(yes now they can't even I know)

What do you mean?

rufflesinc Oct 8, 2018 11:18 am

If someone has enough money to have the Centurion card, wouldn't they be flying F anyways?

While the eligibility criteria are subject to speculation, most reliable sources agree that Centurion Card holders have historically spent US$250,000 or more per year on lower-level American Express cards, and have annual household incomes of around US$1.3 million and net worths of at least US$16 million.
I mean, sure you could be raking in US$1MM a year and flying J (or even Y:eek:) , but ......

hl176 Oct 8, 2018 12:44 pm


Originally Posted by rufflesinc (Post 30292252)
If someone has enough money to have the Centurion card, wouldn't they be flying F anyways?

I mean, sure you could be raking in US$1MM a year and flying J (or even Y:eek:) , but ......

I know a billionaire who's so thrifty he only flies in Y but I also know another who has multiple jets :eek: :D

garykung Oct 8, 2018 3:20 pm


Originally Posted by hl176 (Post 30290936)
Not really; there are ways to get it without an invitation.

Of course there are always ways to get one without an invitation. However, AMEX still holds the discretionary authority to issue a card or not.

On the other hand, as soon as you have never blacklisted by CX, you fly enough to reach DM, the DM status is yours.

So, it still stands - Centurion > DM.


Originally Posted by sscywong (Post 30291959)
Guess CX should already knows that those comp DM didn't fly CX much... Many of them fly other airlines and use the F lounges (yes now they can't even I know)... Nor they bring in much revenue to CX per se as they can fly other OW airlines

The promotion at that time was poorly constructed. So I would agree with the end result.

But if the promotion is more focused or targeted, I would say CX could achieve a better result.


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 30292197)
What do you mean?

What she meant was a prior DM benefit that you could use CX F lounge regardless of the airline traveled. This benefit is now gone and F lounge access for DM is restricted for CX/KA or OW partner flights only.

FlyPointyEnd Oct 8, 2018 6:50 pm


Originally Posted by garykung (Post 30293171)
Of course there are always ways to get one without an invitation. However, AMEX still holds the discretionary authority to issue a card or not.

On the other hand, as soon as you have never blacklisted by CX, you fly enough to reach DM, the DM status is yours.

So, it still stands - Centurion > DM.

You can have b/millions in the bank and you can easily get an invite, normally the primary basis is net worth + credit score. and of course the annual fee. For spend, you can spend it on anything if you wish, even on CX.com if you want, where as for CX, to get DM status you need to fly CX or OW partners and definitely have to spend more than the Centurion annual fees get 1200 club points.

garykung Oct 8, 2018 11:12 pm


Originally Posted by FlyPointyEnd (Post 30293723)
You can have b/millions in the bank and you can easily get an invite, normally the primary basis is net worth + credit score. and of course the annual fee. For spend, you can spend it on anything if you wish, even on CX.com if you want, where as for CX, to get DM status you need to fly CX or OW partners and definitely have to spend more than the Centurion annual fees get 1200 club points.

I don't believe you get my point at all.

CX can't ban you from upgrading from GO to DM as soon as you qualify. But AMEX can choose not to invite you for Centurion, even you have a Platinum Card for years and excellent of everything.

My point is even you can manufacture for a Centurion invitation, AMEX still holds all the cards, unlike CX.

MT_Switch Oct 8, 2018 11:24 pm


Originally Posted by FlyPointyEnd (Post 30293723)
You can have b/millions in the bank and you can easily get an invite, normally the primary basis is net worth + credit score. and of course the annual fee. For spend, you can spend it on anything if you wish, even on CX.com if you want, where as for CX, to get DM status you need to fly CX or OW partners and definitely have to spend more than the Centurion annual fees get 1200 club points.

I don't think just having billions sitting in the bank works, you have to have a history of actually spending on an Amex card, which in most cases would likely be on the Plat card. Furthermore according to data points in the Amex forum on FT, that spend has to be "luxury" spend such as travel, hotel, jewelry, etc, so paying for your grocery and utilities doesn't cut it.


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