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percysmith Aug 12, 2018 8:38 pm


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 30075702)
"You bunch of retards at office, offering a more intensive experience for passengers while the same set of crew remains the same. With more china plates to collect I can’t wait the passengers complain about the noise we are making while doing the service throughout the whole flight. Dear pax: Start minimise your rest instead of maximising it from now on. And please please don’t complain that about the so called noise. FFS!”

CX is making some hype about Restaurant Style in its investor presentations https://www.bloomberg.com/news/video...gh-patch-video - it seems management want to say they are doing something to attract premium pax (but without spending real money)

sxc Aug 12, 2018 9:03 pm


Originally Posted by FlyPointyEnd (Post 30075462)
When I shared this to a crew friend, they told me bread is not served on Brunch service on ORD...was it a new change? or they never served bread even on the old meal service?

I find it a bit ridiculous as Lunch and Supper service would have bread, even afternoon meal service between HKG and TPE/MNL have them....

I don't think I've ever had the "second" meal without bread or pastries.

Here are the sample photos from the press event. Most of the breakfast meals don't have bread, but there is one photo where there is a cooked breakfast (not continental) with pastries.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5e9485924d.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...0bbdf8cf8e.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...23c7fd0e63.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f64d9af2ec.jpg

royng Aug 13, 2018 3:34 am

Now I realise tray really does not come with table cloth...how classy.

I believe nowadays even universities have cafeteria with better food presentation.

percysmith Aug 13, 2018 4:11 am

@royng: YMMV but presentation has no value to me.

They can present food like space food https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_food as far as I care so long as they improve quality.

I am against any suggestion that presentation increases any value <-- I've seen CX try too hard to tweak presentation but destroying value in the process. This behaviour should be discouraged.

fakecd Aug 13, 2018 6:07 am

imagine spoofing client to fly CX with promise of restaurent style food only to find out its blatant lie and utter rip off at best.

in any business key is underpromise and over deliver... not other way around like CX has done. ceo may earn kudos at the media presentation for next 3mth, but imagine backlash when those analyst fly themselves and truth is unfold...

just be truthful, tell the clients we suck at catering but have best bed (not true) and best schedule (maybe) at lowest price for your needs. sell your strength, not the weakness

SLGO Aug 13, 2018 6:32 am


Originally Posted by royng (Post 30076383)
Now I realise tray really does not come with table cloth...how classy.

I believe nowadays even universities have cafeteria with better food presentation.

Agreed. Once thought it’d be closer to QR, but the gap doesn’t get any closer if not further.

mbamejia Aug 13, 2018 7:52 am

I wonder when CX would adopt the Book the Cook concept of SQ...

swingaling Aug 14, 2018 8:45 pm

Looks like folks are definitely starting to notice the new J service on CX...

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip...s-ord-hkg.html

MrJBoy Aug 18, 2018 4:33 pm

Cx 806 hkg-ord
 
I thought meals were better than CX807 ORD-HKG

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...2b449cbd0.jpeg
Shanghainese drunken chicken
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...bef12641b.jpeg

Spicy prawn laksa
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...669b8e7b6.jpeg

Hong Kong char siu pork
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...64141f56c.jpeg

Chicken and shiitake mushroom congee


mbamejia Aug 18, 2018 7:13 pm


Originally Posted by MrJBoy (Post 30098558)
I thought meals were better than CX807 ORD-HKG

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...2b449cbd0.jpeg
Shanghainese drunken chicken
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...bef12641b.jpeg

Spicy prawn laksa
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...669b8e7b6.jpeg

Hong Kong char siu pork
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...64141f56c.jpeg

Chicken and shiitake mushroom congee


The "plating" looks so sad...

clubeurope Aug 20, 2018 1:22 am


Originally Posted by mbamejia (Post 30098913)
The "plating" looks so sad...

Maybe it's the lighting that makes it less appealing, though the lack of a table cloth on the tray still gets on my nerves.

jmj9905 Aug 20, 2018 3:31 pm

This a bummer. I am hoping F awards open up before my 9/17 departure.

rienhart87 Aug 20, 2018 9:01 pm

I was wondering, for those who have experienced the new service, were the FAs more chatty? more interaction with the passengers as promised? or were they more distressed than ever?

swingaling Aug 21, 2018 9:04 am

Those trays are all too reminiscent of institutional food service (hospitals, schools, prisons, etc). Not really a great association for such an expensive product.

Cambo Aug 23, 2018 8:15 pm

Looking at the press presentation pictures, I definitely would call this restaurant quality presentation.

Unfortunately, to let the whole work out properly, the crockery style should reflect the rest of the items.
Ie the food itself as well as the surroundings where the whole is placed.

Compare the avant-garde (alike, I am not a specialist in that) crockery with the green/beige/brownish coloring of the CX cabins. No fit, so to say.

The same for the food on the plates. The style of the food simply does not match with the crockery.

Somebody made a partial solution, so to say.

Today, I did AMS-HKG and the service flow was changed. The tray trolley is no longer hauled through the cabin, though left in the galley and the trays (old style with white cloth), brought to the passengers individually. I considered this to be a positive item. It's less of an assembly line and it does give some more rest in the cabin (ie no flight attendants making a lot of hasty assembly movements in the aisles). The drinks, mains and desert were still done the original way, which felt OK.

Crew was a little more interacting, which I found a positive item, though it was obvious, they did not have enough time to be chatty. On descent, the captain had to request the cabin crew TWICE to prepare the cabin for landing. The first time no action seemed to be taken, crew busy to clean-up the remnants of the breakfast, no announcements made, etc.

I think, CX still has some steps to go, to get the overall picture fitting.

Today’s food was definitely better than before, for both taste and presentation.


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