VIP03s which you get for free from AAdvantage and you're trying to swap for Asiamiles which , as anyone with Asiamiles memberships know, is that much harder to accumulate than most other programmes?

PS - SWISS TRAVEL CLUB members may also for the time being (till it merges with BAEC) use their points to upgrade CX flights.

While it is no doubt that Asiamiles are harder to accumulate (that's why I have always been Silver only), the trade I am looking for are with individuals who are going to use 40K+ to upgrade AA flights anyway, or have use for AA/AS/UA miles, resulting in an equitable solution for both parties. VIP’s does have the advantage of being upgrade by segments, whilst Asiamiles upgrades are by distance. In the event anyone wants to upgrade NRT-JFK-LHR, or the like, VIP’s will work to his advantage, so a trade in this case will be beneficial to both.

With miles and upgrades, which doesn't have any intrinsic value, as long as both parties agree what they want to trade has value to them, it’s a fair and equitable solution for both. I believe this is consistent with the spirit of the FT Community. For that matter, we are trading something that was given to us for free anyways. Quid pro quo, simple as that.

Thanks for pointing out that Swiss TravelClub can also upgrade CX flights, which is ultimately what I am looking for.

[This message has been edited by jkc22 (edited 11-05-2003).]

I have the following itinrary in ONE booking reference:

HKG > LAX > HKG on CX PEY (R) upgraded to (U) by 30,000 AM
LAX > MIA > LAX on AA EY (H)

I successfully used asiamiles to upgrade R to U but I added H tkt after the upgrade.

Q1: Can I upgrade the whole trip by using asiamiles if I knew the additional trip at first place. If yes, how much asiamiles require?

Q2: Now it seems only I can do to separately upgrade H tkt and I need another 30,000 AM according to the MPC website Award Finder. I'm considering it as it's 4.5 hours flight but unforturnately it's RED EYE flight.

I don't think you can combine anyway. They are two different types of upgrades. HKG-LAX is an upgrade from PEY and LAX-MIA is an upgrade from Y.