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Originally Posted by freakinflyer001
(Post 28231730)
And slightly OT, can anyone confirm if they would upgrade their elite MPC/OW members even if they're on an award/upgrade ticket?
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Originally Posted by freakinflyer001
(Post 28231730)
And slightly OT, can anyone confirm if they would upgrade their elite MPC/OW members even if they're on an award/upgrade ticket?
Curious to hear about your experiences! :) Many anecdotes over the past months, including Y >> J on award ticket, regional Y >> PEY >> J on award ticket, regional and my favorite: PEY (upgraded to J using miles) >> F (!!), longhaul |
Originally Posted by garykung
(Post 28225351)
Allow me to illustrate why it is not what you believe.
Using CX's SFO-HKG PEY E Class - $1879.17 as an example, it will earn 90 CP and 15210K AM with MPC/AM. On the other hand, it will earn 20739 EQM, $2765 EQD and 22122 RDM with AA. For the MPC GO, it will take 7 RT trips to re-qualify. However, for the AA PLT, it will only take 3 RT trips to re-qualify. MPC does not really have any CX-specific benefits to GO only but not OWS. In that case, there is no value staying with MPC. Beside - in this example, if that MPC GO really needs to take that 7 RT trips, that MPC GO would have been a AA EXP (OWE) with 4 systemwide upgrades and more RDM. What's the point staying with MPC then? Again - not as much as you think. Short-haul elites will switch to HX if HX can suit their needs. Long-haul elites will switch to other compatible OW program as OWS if possible. Otherwise, they will be forced to stay and get a credit card with lounge access. Pretty new to this, but facing similar dilemma as previously used to qualify for GO via a few long haul PEY HKG-US and a fair volume of discounted short haul in Asia, but will likely not be maintained under the new system. Recently been travelling more outside Asia though, and the lounge access via OWS has been beneficial, but that could be achieved via AA as noted above. However as this thread also notes, anecdotally GO status brings more upgrades - something I have also observed and value quite a bit as I fly short haul out of HKG frequently. So if based on above math for OWS retention ease, and switch over to AA PLT from MP GO , does that mean I would not experience the same upgrade frequency on CX ex-HKG short hauls? And if not, any other advice on how to maintain GO status other than much higher long haul flight frequency or flying full fare long haul on J? |
Originally Posted by SSY
(Post 28307181)
So if based on above math for OWS retention ease, and switch over to AA PLT from MP GO , does that mean I would not experience the same upgrade frequency on CX ex-HKG short hauls?
Originally Posted by SSY
(Post 28307181)
And if not, any other advice on how to maintain GO status other than much higher long haul flight frequency or flying full fare long haul on J?
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Originally Posted by cxfan1960
(Post 28308205)
You would have lower chance of op-ups, probably even below CX SL.
Originally Posted by cxfan1960
(Post 28308205)
It is hopeless on US routes. I am based in SFO and gave up on retaining DM last year. I am now GO. I should be able to retain GO as I do fly J half the time and PEY upgraded to J the other half.
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Originally Posted by kaka
(Post 28312616)
hows ur opup rate there btw?
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Originally Posted by cxfan1960
(Post 28312783)
My last op-up was when I was still a DM. I haven't scored a single op-up since I became GO, but flights were not full.
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Originally Posted by SSY
(Post 28307181)
And if not, any other advice on how to maintain GO status other than much higher long haul flight frequency or flying full fare long haul on J?
This is my method, anyway. I get around 300 points a year between these two trips and balance 300 I have to make up on CX flying PEY mainly. Each PEY trip to USA is worth 100 points RT so if I make 2 of those then I'm up to 500. Balance 100 points have to get a bit creative... But it's worth it as I get op-up from PEY to J quite regularly on those USA flights as I usually travel at peak time when flights are full. |
As I've said other places....PEY seems to be the killer sweet spot for op-ups. If you're buying cash PEY fares, GO membership should be quite useful here. You have low #s of Diamond competitors in that cabin, and you're ahead of OWE. The fact there are fewer seats in PEY than J on all configs mean CX will often vastly oversell Y with the intention to overfill PEY, sometimes by a big number. Which Cascades to J.
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Originally Posted by JALPak
(Post 28215886)
Not true. CX can suspend this benefit for operational reason.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...guarantee.html |
Originally Posted by hkflyer2014
(Post 28317344)
Well come on, there's always fine print. "Operational Reason" could be defined to mean most anything but honestly have used this feature several times recently and never had a hint of an issue.
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Originally Posted by QRC3288
(Post 28317319)
As I've said other places....PEY seems to be the killer sweet spot for op-ups. If you're buying cash PEY fares, GO membership should be quite useful here. You have low #s of Diamond competitors in that cabin, and you're ahead of OWE. The fact there are fewer seats in PEY than J on all configs mean CX will often vastly oversell Y with the intention to overfill PEY, sometimes by a big number. Which Cascades to J.
For example, I'm travelling ORD-HKG in about a week, and when I see loads like: F4 A4 J8 C8 D7 I7 W1 R0 E0 Y3 B1 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 F5 A2 J7 C6 D2 I0 W1 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 F4 A4 J9 C8 D7 I7 W3 R3 E2 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 on flights, to me that's more or less a 100% guarantee that I'll pay for PEY but I'll fly in J. Actually on such flights (I've seen on previous trips from ORD-HKG), even GR and random AM members are getting upgrades at times... |
Originally Posted by midlevels
(Post 28317264)
Flying QR to Europe will net you 200+ points roundtrip in J and flying MH via KUL shorthaul J to other Asian destinations will net you 100 points roundtrip. Both are usually priced quite reasonably. QR flights are very comfortable, MH flights service is good but hard product lacking.
This is my method, anyway. I get around 300 points a year between these two trips and balance 300 I have to make up on CX flying PEY mainly. Each PEY trip to USA is worth 100 points RT so if I make 2 of those then I'm up to 500. Balance 100 points have to get a bit creative... But it's worth it as I get op-up from PEY to J quite regularly on those USA flights as I usually travel at peak time when flights are full. |
One nice perk of being GO - they automatically blocked the seat next to me on OLCI on a 3-3-3 SIN-HKG flight on Y.
I just made GO last week and was wondering why my friend was unable to get the middle seat to sit next to me! |
Originally Posted by Alawyer
(Post 28858435)
One nice perk of being GO - they automatically blocked the seat next to me on OLCI on a 3-3-3 SIN-HKG flight on Y.
I just made GO last week and was wondering why my friend was unable to get the middle seat to sit next to me! |
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