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natakating May 26, 2016 4:09 am


Originally Posted by ashsong (Post 26682463)
One good example of how perspectives are amazing things. I would be very upset if / when I experience what OP described. But this quote also makes a lot of sense. I think the 10,000 miles of good will is perhaps a little bit tacky, but hey, you could always end up with nothing and get labelled as a troublesome customer.

Hope missing the flight didn't bring about too much trouble.

Agree. I wish the agent could just told me the true, the whole truth. but not just fool me, try to let me get lost from his face. 10,000 miles is nothing compare to a sincerely apologize.

percysmith May 26, 2016 4:16 am


Originally Posted by natakating (Post 26683813)
Agree. I wish the agent could just told me the true, the whole truth. but not just fool me, try to let me get lost from his face. 10,000 miles is nothing compare to a sincerely apologize.

The agent may be blinded by what management does not allow them to see or do. They have very little empowerment, their options are limited.

Of course this suggests a mismanaged airline. For a Hong Kong service provider they're about par...banks are more or less the same.

natakating May 26, 2016 4:18 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 26683805)
Not criticising your choice of any particular airline you can't transit (out of China), leave last minute and expect to be on time at your destination all at the same time.

Apology if I said any offend. As I said before. CAN is different. Unlike CTU/ PVG / PEK. In terms of delay, from my past 5 years experience with KA . They have very good on time performance. base on that, I really don't think choose KA / CX for my ex-CAN flight is a bad idea.

natakating May 26, 2016 4:26 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 26683841)
The agent may be blinded by what management does not allow them to see or do. They have very little empowerment, their options are limited.

Of course this suggests a mismanaged airline. For a Hong Kong service provider they're about par...banks are more or less the same.

I understand they had limited authority. But again, it's not an excuse for them to fool me or mislead me when I came to them ask for help. they could just told me they can not move us to the MH flight, and the reason is xxxxxxx I can totally understand and Let him alone.

I have right to ask to be treated right.

heyheyha May 26, 2016 4:36 am


Originally Posted by natakating (Post 26683788)
Airasia in on my black list. Can we not discuss why I choose CX but not other airline? I didn't have trouble on this issue.

Might want to consider adding CX to your blacklist too.

Those scheming liars! How dare they treat their passengers in a less than honest manner!

percysmith May 26, 2016 4:36 am


Originally Posted by natakating (Post 26683855)
it's not an excuse for them to fool me or mislead me when I came to them ask for help. they could just told me they can not move us to the MH flight, and the reason is xxxxxxx

You are still assuming front-line staff should be able to find about the MH flight and know management decided to be skinflint so they won't rebook you on it.

It is more likely they know neither of those things. They weren't trained to find out or given the information to properly do their jobs. Much simpler and profitable for management.

natakating May 26, 2016 5:22 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 26683872)
You are still assuming front-line staff should be able to find about the MH flight and know management decided to be skinflint so they won't rebook you on it.

It is more likely they know neither of those things. They weren't trained to find out or given the information to properly do their jobs. Much simpler and profitable for management.

They can not move us to MH flight is one thing / they told me the MH flight was not operate is other thing.

You can not mix this two things.

percysmith May 26, 2016 5:27 am


Originally Posted by natakating (Post 26683960)
they told me the MH flight was not operate is other thing.

Cos the system says so.

It's like CX's system is telling the staff to tell you that 2+2 = 5. Yes it's a blatant lie that a moderately intelligent staff member should be able to work around but how much intelligence are you expecting of CX ground staff?

I also think there was a language barrier too. If you spoke Cantonese you might have a more accurate answer.

heyheyha May 26, 2016 5:28 am


Originally Posted by natakating (Post 26683960)
They can not move us to MH flight is one thing / they told me the MH flight was not operate is other thing.

You can not mix this two things.

Yes, they lied to you.

What do you want them to do about it?

I'm sure if you blacklist them, it'd be absolutely devastating to their abysmal bottom line.

natakating May 26, 2016 5:29 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 26683971)
Cos the system says so.

It's like CX's system is telling the staff to tell you that 2+2 = 5. Yes it's a blatant lie that a moderately intelligent staff member should be able to work around but how much intelligence are you expecting of CX ground staff?

I also think there was a language barrier too. If you spoke Cantonese you might have a more accurate answer.

Cantonese is my mother language.

percysmith May 26, 2016 5:30 am


Originally Posted by heyheyha (Post 26683972)
Yes, they lied to you.

What do you want them to do about it?

Hang on heyheyha. Actually I now recall a similar case that happened to me.

I'm reminded on about me and my wife's wedding flights to/from Sapporo. It was on a 74K even though First wasn't sold.
With tux and gown on our backs I asked whether we can be seated in F, explaining it's our wedding.
In HKG I was told F wasn't opened. It turned out to be a blatant lie, as I saw passengers occupying the seats when I got on board.
In CTS for the return flight I was told it was opened to status passengers only.

In any case I took no further action as I clearly wasn't eligible. And the reason given in CTS is probably the truth.
Now that I think of this case I don't know why they lie to me. I dunno if Cantonese people are simply deceitful, afraid they cannot disclose anything but the clearest black and white rules or simply wanted the quickest way to dismiss my request.

I think though
*If* the HKG staff knew with adequate certainty that F is only to be occupied by status pax
Why can't the staff member state it with as much clarity as her Sapporo counterpart.

Could still be a training problem
Similar to the F check in who told me colleague an F passenger (even redemption) cannot being in any guests sitting in the back on same flight.

natakating May 26, 2016 5:31 am


Originally Posted by heyheyha (Post 26683972)
Yes, they lied to you.

What do you want them to do about it?

Recognize they have better way to given out information, and sincerely apologize about it. Than I'm happy.

I files a complaint to CX not because I wanted 10.000 miles form them. the reason is same like when a 10 years old naughty boy done some bad things than his mom yell at him. All I want is CX getting better and better. I‘m a DM, I just love CX as much as you do.

DernierVirage May 26, 2016 5:43 am

The OP will not give up until we tell him what he wants to hear, which means he will have a long wait.....Is it not time to put this thread out of its misery ?

natakating May 26, 2016 5:45 am


Originally Posted by DernierVirage (Post 26684009)
The OP will not give up until we tell him what he wants to hear, which means he will have a long wait.....Is it not time to put this thread out of its misery ?

Am I really being vexatious to you?

percysmith May 26, 2016 5:46 am


Originally Posted by natakating (Post 26683984)
All I want is CX getting better and better. I just love CX as much as you do. if I don't , I won't be a DM.

My case in #41 was two years ago. I don't think they'll get better on the training and staff are going to continue to lie even if involuntarily.

If you make DM you might get better staff and better answers but it's a long road to DM and you aren't that tolerant of bad staff you'll have to suffer on the way.


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