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Cathay Boy Dec 16, 2015 5:50 am


Originally Posted by Awesom Andy (Post 25872045)
That's very HKG like though. The general populous would run for a bus/train/flight if they can make it, rather than waste time and wait for the next one.

I've noticed that. I guess my wife's out of HK too long (she is Hong Kongese, and she was like it was ridiculous how they had to run for dear life to catch a flight that is available every hour).

AC*SE Dec 16, 2015 8:11 am


Originally Posted by Sohoboy (Post 25869905)
Pessenger list should have the guest info including connecting flight numbers/destinations. Experienced ISM should know morning flights from TPE are having tight CT. Ground staff at arrival gate should also well communicate with departure gate staff to alert them that pax are on their way.

Yes, but ISM's aren't crossing names off the manifest as people board, so as passengers come down the bridge, the ISM has no way of knowing whether they are connecting or HKG originating pax.

Yes, ground should be communicating with the cabin, but it's not the ISM's fault if ground drop the ball there.

Daffie Dec 16, 2015 11:02 pm


Originally Posted by Guava (Post 25868084)
My experience with CX/KA regional flights as far as I can remember in the last 15-20 years have been more than excellent. I will go as far as saying the CX/KA regional network and premium experience is likely the best in the world, rivaled only by ME3's network within the Gulf region. The crew were always very friendly, attentive and polite but it may very well reflect the fact those were premium experiences, not economy class. I have heard similar horror stories as the OP from those who traveled with CX in economy class and have asked others here in this forum to confirm on many occasions but none wants to answer that question. It seems the OP's story just explained why there has been a deafening silence on my question. So it is true, CX does have a reputation to mistreat economy class passengers and it ain't just hearsay.


Originally Posted by gpia (Post 25871188)
Another tiny piece to that puzzle: Dropped to GR for about 1.5 months, and had my seat changed at check-in on 3 out of the 4 segments I flew during that period, without equipment change. Never happened before or since as SL.

Either way, I can relate to the OP. I don't handle false accusations very well either :o


Originally Posted by ManfredvonRichthofen (Post 25871966)
I wonder if this explains my issues with all of my confirmed (J) seat reservations being removed. I have no status with CX.
I used to live in HK so used CX all the time. I visit now and then and up until now have used BA (I am BA exec club). I thought this time I would try Cathay, but the experience so far (and we have not even left yet) is making me regret my choice.

You guys are hilarious. Next, someone going to chime in saying there wasn't any in-flight infront of their seat just because they are a low/no status passenger, being mistreated by CX in Y! :rolleyes:

alastairloh Dec 23, 2015 8:38 am

Hi all once again, so CX had gotten back to me and basically they said they have informed the relevant departments and they will improve on their services. At the end, they offered a 200USD service voucher.

so yep, guess that's that and i guess a deserving compensation from CX on this matter

jagmeets Dec 24, 2015 5:09 am

Poor poor experience on CX :(
 
Good luck using the service voucher though! Hope that it's not only for the duty free shipping.

On the comments about HKG being a bad airport for transits- I disagree. It might not be the easiest to a first timer on a short connection, but once you have a hang of the optimal transit points/where to stand for the train(if needed, not much longer to just walk fast), it's pretty pretty fast. Many rate SIN as fabulous for newbies in transit, but I've come across many confused faces trying to figure out the (easy) terminal shuffle there.

I do a 1hr-ish transit 5-15 times a year & have never had a problem, even when the gates for the arriving and departing aircraft were at opposite ends (and unless the arrival is more than say, 15mins late, manage a quick lounge visit/shower). There's usually someone waiting to escort via the most efficient path, if there are 40 or less minutes remaining, but have had to use their help just once over the years.

What I have noticed however (no empirical evidence, just a feel), that a lot more flights tend to be delayed nowadays, than say a year or more ago.

jjjohn Dec 24, 2015 9:42 am

CX used to have ground staff helping transit when a tight connection happened (delay), so you would cut the q at security check.

QRC3288 Dec 24, 2015 12:36 pm


Originally Posted by jagmeets (Post 25911384)
On the comments about HKG being a bad airport for transits- I disagree. It might not be the easiest to a first timer on a short connection, but once you have a hang of the optimal transit points/where to stand for the train(if needed, not much longer to just walk fast), it's pretty pretty fast.

...

I do a 1hr-ish transit 5-15 times a year & have never had a problem, even when the gates for the arriving and departing aircraft were at opposite ends (and unless the arrival is more than say, 15mins late, manage a quick lounge visit/shower). There's usually someone waiting to escort via the most efficient path, if there are 40 or less minutes remaining, but have had to use their help just once over the years.

+1.

With respect to others' opinions on here, I find HKIA as good as it gets all things considered. Extremely, extremely reliable for predicting exactly how long it will take to each gate. I suppose it depends on what you use the airport for, how often you use it, and what you're after. I prefer the "vibe" of Changi T3 more than HKG, but for sheer reliability and punctuality HKG wins for me hands down.

I also like how on a transit I can predict very precisely exactly what is my "worst case scenario" for connection times. Same situation leaving Central for HKG. I know precisely what is the final Airport Express I need to take in order to make my flight on time. I cannot find this insane level of predictability at any other airport I use. It's very helpful for scheduling meetings and maximizing the hell out of your time pre-flight. And for transits, I never have the tweety birds in my head "will I make it will I make it?" if the flight is on time and I have a 50+ minute connection.


Originally Posted by jjjohn (Post 25912198)
CX used to have ground staff helping transit when a tight connection happened (delay), so you would cut the q at security check.

Yea, sometimes they still do this. I don't really know the rhyme or reason as to when CX decides to have the person escort you all the way to your next gate. It happens fairly often, but definitely isn't a "lock" if your connection is tight. It's a bummer the OP didn't receive it.

As a note to anyone transiting with a tight connection in the future, transit security staff will usually let you hop to the front of the queue if your departure time is <30 minutes from the current time. Just be persistent talking to them.

royng Dec 27, 2015 6:26 am

New gates: 201-230
 

Originally Posted by QRC3288 (Post 25912830)
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I also like how on a transit I can predict very precisely exactly what is my "worst case scenario" for connection times.

QRC3288, you will need to factor in the new midfield concourse gates very soon :p

Guava Dec 27, 2015 10:34 am


Originally Posted by alastairloh (Post 25907200)
Hi all once again, so CX had gotten back to me and basically they said they have informed the relevant departments and they will improve on their services. At the end, they offered a 200USD service voucher.

so yep, guess that's that and i guess a deserving compensation from CX on this matter

I am glad it worked out for you at the end even though I am not convinced the grass is necessarily greener on the other side if we were to compare CX to SQ for example. Personally, I think SQ's ground services are lights years ahead of CX due to my past travel experiences with SQ have been outstanding for me. I can think of several examples as to how SQ truly impressed me, for instance, years ago when SQ still had their old Silver Kris lounge in SIN, there were concierge staffed there whom I can ask to do virtually anything for me. All had I to do was tell them my name, flight date and time, even if it's a week from now, you can be sure it will be done when you come back to SIN. That's how amazing it is. They will look up the information for you, no need to memorize your booking reference number or anything like that since who in their sound mind will try to memorize such a thing.

Or another time, I stupidly put a laptop in the checked luggage, naturally it was damaged during transport. The SQ staff @ SIN handled it with amazing professionalism, she actually closed down the SQ First Class check-in queue just for me, personally escorted me through secured area into their baggage claim services and reimbursed me over $600+ USD in repairs for something that was essentially a fault of my own. So for me, SQ has always been amazing.

But then I have colleagues who traveled from Canada to Bali on SQ on Aeroplan award ticket for their honeymoon later who told me SQ wouldn't even entertain their damaged suitcase claim when one of the wheels was damaged during transport. And recently, in the SQ forum, something similar happened to another chap on FT, whose damage suitcase claim was mired in a bureaucratic loop for months without solution by SQ. So while I am tempted to say SQ is better than CX service wise, it has to be pointed out YMMV. When I have issues with CX, they always respond timely and so far, they have been satisfactory. Doesn't mean I didn't have to escalate from times to times or run into bad apples either but honestly, CX customer service is still very good overall, despite all the inconsistency.

I wouldn't judge an airline based on an one-off incident.

QRC3288 Dec 27, 2015 10:36 am


Originally Posted by royng (Post 25920780)
QRC3288, you will need to factor in the new midfield concourse gates very soon :p

good point!

alastairloh Dec 27, 2015 10:38 am

Hi, thanks for the insight! purely out of curiosity, where are you based in?Guava


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