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cx826 Jun 16, 2015 8:54 pm

CX To Use 350 On AKL?
 
Starting in April, CX show no schedule on AKL flight due to internal error?? Do they plan to use 350 on this route as they are going to have their first 350 in Feb 16, so they have at least two 350 starting April to do the daily rotation.

QRC3288 Jun 16, 2015 9:39 pm


Originally Posted by cx826 (Post 24982066)
Starting in April, CX show no schedule on AKL flight due to internal error?? Do they plan to use 350 on this route as they are going to have their first 350 in Feb 16, so they have at least two 350 starting April to do the daily rotation.

i think there is already a thread about this somewhere? per that thread, the speculation seems to be when the A350s come online, they will go to AKL as one of, if not the, first regular long-haul destination.

jimyvr Jun 16, 2015 10:01 pm


Originally Posted by cx826 (Post 24982066)
Starting in April, CX show no schedule on AKL flight due to internal error?? Do they plan to use 350 on this route as they are going to have their first 350 in Feb 16, so they have at least two 350 starting April to do the daily rotation.

CX is still showing AKL flights on/after April 2016.

Kachjc Jun 17, 2015 12:11 am


Originally Posted by cx826 (Post 24982066)
Starting in April, CX show no schedule on AKL flight due to internal error?? Do they plan to use 350 on this route as they are going to have their first 350 in Feb 16, so they have at least two 350 starting April to do the daily rotation.

CX is receiving 12 A350's next year

and 12 aircraft used on long haul routes are not leaving next year ( only 2 for AKL)
thus net 10 long haul aircraft growth
so expect lots of expansion as well
http://m.nzherald.co.nz/business/new...ectid=11466211

JeCCo Jun 17, 2015 12:51 am


Originally Posted by Kachjc (Post 24982669)
CX is receiving 12 A350's next year

and 12 aircraft used on long haul routes are not leaving next year ( only 2 for AKL)
thus net 10 long haul aircraft growth
so expect lots of expansion as well
http://m.nzherald.co.nz/business/new...ectid=11466211

I think its been mentioned before that CX is considering de-rating some of the long haul A330's and putting them on short haul routes

fakecd Jun 17, 2015 6:43 am


Originally Posted by JeCCo (Post 24982771)
I think its been mentioned before that CX is considering de-rating some of the long haul A330's and putting them on short haul routes

Ditto. They already removed PEY from some 33G on indian routes.. I dont see why they cant convert all indian flights to regional J 330s... After all what is the competition anyways...

jagmeets Jun 17, 2015 7:06 am

CX To Use 350 On AKL?
 
The competition, at least to DEL & BOM is flat beds in J..

sscywong Jun 17, 2015 11:25 am


Originally Posted by fakecd (Post 24983691)
Ditto. They already removed PEY from some 33G on indian routes.. I dont see why they cant convert all indian flights to regional J 330s... After all what is the competition anyways...

CX has regional 330 now... If they want they can fly them with the regional flight already... Don't have to wait for the new 350...

fakecd Jun 17, 2015 6:57 pm


Originally Posted by jagmeets (Post 24983783)
The competition, at least to DEL & BOM is flat beds in J..

sorry but if you meant Jet Airways and Air India is a competition to CX, I guess I have nothing to say... but if you meant indirect flights i wonder if that's a direct comparison being direct vs connecting routes.

QRC3288 Jun 17, 2015 7:19 pm


Originally Posted by fakecd (Post 24987896)
sorry but if you meant Jet Airways and Air India is a competition to CX, I guess I have nothing to say... but if you meant indirect flights i wonder if that's a direct comparison being direct vs connecting routes.

man, what you recommend would be brutal....canning Cirrus J on the India flights. I really hope CX doesn't take you up on this idea. The ex-India flights (DEL, BOM, HYD, MAA) all have red-eyes back to HKG, and are significantly longer than any other red-eye without Cirrus J guaranteed (SIN, KIX, NRT, ICN). Particularly BOM. That's like a 5-6 hour flight.

I absolutely hate red-eyes without a bed, and pretty much avoid them at all costs. I don't fly to India that often, but if this transpired I'd just fly Jet Airways back on my next India trip (Air India...terrifies me).

Haven't used Jet before, but colleagues tell me the product in Premiere Class is nice, and Jet has it on the A330-200 they serve to HKG. Plus it's reverse herringbone but only has 3 across in the A330 (vs 4 for CX)...so it sounds like they're flying CX's 77W Cirrus equivalent on the A330. Sweet. Flying back, I really could care less if the food sucks or service is horrible or whatever else. I can just put on the eye shades, pop an Ambien if absolutely necessary and get 3-4 hours of sleep in a flat bed. As long as there aren't shrieking children or a party going on in the cabin, it should do the trick.

wandering_fred Jun 17, 2015 7:32 pm

CX certainly has used the A330 with regional business class (and no PEY) on the CMB-HKG route. Alas I don't remember the reservation designation for the plane, but it was implied that there were a smallish number at the time.

Happy wandering

Fred

QRC3288 Jun 17, 2015 9:04 pm


Originally Posted by wandering_fred (Post 24988045)
CX certainly has used the A330 with regional business class (and no PEY) on the CMB-HKG route. Alas I don't remember the reservation designation for the plane, but it was implied that there were a smallish number at the time.

Happy wandering

Fred

Oh my, that's brutal. Regional J is simply terrible for sleeping.

KrazyTrain18 Jun 18, 2015 12:41 am

Eventually AKL and probably all of Australia will be served by the A350 whether it be A359 0r A35J.

percysmith Jun 18, 2015 1:38 am


Originally Posted by QRC3288 (Post 24987987)
Premiere Class is nice, and Jet has it on the A330-200 they serve to HKG. Plus it's reverse herringbone but only has 3 across in the A330 (vs 4 for CX)...so it sounds like they're flying CX's 77W Cirrus equivalent on the A330. Sweet. Flying back, I really could care less if the food sucks or service is horrible or whatever else.

I actually been on Jet once in 2011, when the missus got a free HKG-LHR ticket from Citi welcome offer http://www.hongkongcard.com/forum/fo...hp?id=6146&p=1 and I paid to tag along. Very easy on the wallet $4,1xx++ indirect tix. It was our first long haul since dating.

I ended up being a fan but the missus swore never to travel via (much less to) BOM or India again. So I never got to fly Jet again.

I'm probably less enthusiatic about doing the route in the back now, I got the last of the 3-3-3 77Ws and now I think they're 3-4-3...

QRC3288 Jun 18, 2015 2:33 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 24989184)
I actually been on Jet once in 2011, when the missus got a free HKG-LHR ticket from Citi welcome offer http://www.hongkongcard.com/forum/fo...hp?id=6146&p=1 and I paid to tag along. Very easy on the wallet $4,1xx++ indirect tix. It was our first long haul since dating.

I ended up being a fan but the missus swore never to travel via (much less to) BOM or India again. So I never got to fly Jet again.

I'm probably less enthusiatic about doing the route in the back now, I got the last of the 3-3-3 77Ws and now I think they're 3-4-3...

wow, I just did a spot check for Jet Airways biz class ("Premiere") pricing to/from Mumbai. It's a steal, $13k HKD round trip (granted, this is discount biz class...full fare compares to CX, 25K HKD). I guess that's my answer if I have to fly to India and CX cans Cirrus J. I'd definitely try Jet's flat beds for 13k HKD.

Absolutely worth a try instead of suffering through CX's regional J seats overnight, which are simply just not meant for sleeping...the old lazy boy regional J was better for precisely one thing: sleeping. I like having AVOD regionally, but unless you're working upright in the seat I find it a pretty-looking but crap executed product...like crawling over your neighbor if you have a window seat and he's trying to rest.

Trying to tie this thread back together...any chance CX would use the A350 to India? Or are they really out there to replace the longhaul A330s (and remaining few A340 route like AKL)?


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