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points traveler Apr 9, 2015 9:11 am

would this be an allowable redemption?
 
I have never booked a flight with stopovers before. I was hoping to book the following:
Clt to ord
Ord to hkg three nights in hong kong
Hkg to bkk two nights in Bangkok
Bkk to hkt final destination

Open jaw 7 nights

Rep to hkg
Hkg to ord two nights in Chicago
Ord to clt

Thanks for the help!

jagmeets Apr 9, 2015 9:40 am

So,
CLT-xORD-oHKG-oBKK-HKT//REP-xHKG-oORD-CLT

where 'x' is a transit, 'o' a stopover and '//' an openjaw. oneworld multicarrier awards allow 5 stop overs, 2 transits & 2 open-jaws. You have 3 stopovers and 2 transits (HKT counts as an open jaw, not a stopover - so all good there. However you do need:
1) 2 oneworld carriers if CX or KA are not included
2) 3 oneworld carriers if CX or KA are included.

You fall under #2, and while there's been a discussion on this before, I think that using AA+CX+KA (for the REP-HKG leg) should pass muster. If not, escalate to an MPC supervisor while booking the ticket.

Your problem however, is the BKK-HKT segment - no oneworld carrier flies that. But that should be a cheap enough sector to just book:
CLT-xORD-oHKG-BKK//REP-xHKG-oORD-CLT

and while you're at it, you could add a couple of segments within the US at the end..
CLT-xORD-oHKG-BKK//REP-xHKG-oORD-oCLT-oXXX-oYYY-CLT

I think that you can use a stopover allowance as a transit if needed (or was it the other way around..either way, worth a try).

points traveler Apr 9, 2015 9:56 am

Thank you so much for the response. Ka is dragon air correct? Any recomendations on the best place to go to search availability?

jagmeets Apr 9, 2015 10:32 am

would this be an allowable redemption?
 
Ba.com! Create an account. And you can search without having any Avios in...tad slow though..

And yep, KA is dragonair

LchChester Apr 9, 2015 10:50 am

CX and KA are not regarded as two airlines for the purpose of counting "3 oneworld carriers if CX or KA are included.".

However, it can turn to be a OW-chart redemption if HKG-BKK is booked on RJ or UL. This will cost 95k in Y and 140k in J.

On the other hand, "CLT-xORD-oHKG-BKK//REP-xHKG-oORD-CLT" is a valid AM redemption with 2 transits and 2 stopovers and 1 open-jaw. It will cost 85k in Y and 145k in J.

Also once returning to the point of origin, i.e. CLT in this case, you cannot continue on with the same ticket. You can getaround this by flying into alternate airport, e.g. ATL.

jagmeets Apr 9, 2015 11:03 am

LchChester - thanks for figuring that out - that it could be a valid AM redemption (& better value in Y)!!

gotta disagree about returning the the origin point - in the case of oneworld multicarrier awards - I have issued 3 tickets where the passenger(s) have returned to, and continued on, from the origin point.

points traveler Apr 9, 2015 11:22 am

Was hoping to book 1st class would this work
CLT-xORD on american
ORD-oHKG on Cathay
HKG-BKK on royal jordan
//
HKT-oKUL on Malaysia
KUL-oREP on Malaysia
REP-xHKG on Dragon Air
HKG-oORD on Cathay
ORD-CLT on american

kaka Apr 9, 2015 6:53 pm


Originally Posted by points traveler (Post 24641150)
Was hoping to book 1st class would this work
CLT-xORD on american
ORD-oHKG on Cathay
HKG-BKK on royal jordan
//
HKT-oKUL on Malaysia
KUL-oREP on Malaysia
REP-xHKG on Dragon Air
HKG-oORD on Cathay
ORD-CLT on american

works.but id look into skipping kul if cost affordable

jagmeets Apr 9, 2015 7:08 pm

would this be an allowable redemption?
 
MH surcharges can be quite high too!

points traveler Apr 9, 2015 10:22 pm

Awesome thank you for all of your help!!!


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