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LHR/MEL/Europe FF Mar 30, 2015 3:06 pm

For non status card holders, the requirement is three times in 12 months, not 3 months.

http://www.immd.gov.hk/eng/services/..._visitors.html

Thunderroad Mar 30, 2015 3:13 pm


Originally Posted by susiesan (Post 24569395)
My plan is to arrive from CX 881 in F at 7:40am, go to The Wing for a shower and breakfast, exit the airport and take the train into Hong Kong. After playing tourist for the day, take the train back to HKIA, have dinner in The Wing, maybe another shower, and depart on CX 611 at 8:10pm in J. According to what you say, I am considered in transit and can use the Wing upon my return to the airport, right?


Originally Posted by GE90-115B (Post 24569802)
The Wing is on the airside of HKIA, you technically can't spend some time in the Wing after getting off CX881 if you intend to visit the city. But there is a way to reenter the city from the departure side of the airport. You could tell the lounge agent that you would like to go back to the city, and they will take you through a series of backdoors to be back on landside. I never tried, nor do I intend to in the future so can't comment on how much of a hassle this can be.

susiesan, what you're planning to do should be no problem. Arriving in F from the USA and then departing in J for Cambodia, I did this just a couple of months ago without any problem, though under slightly different circumstances. (Forgot to bring a photo with me for getting visa on arrival in Cambodia, so went through immigration and customs to get photos at a machine in the landside part of the airport.) The F lounge staff at the F entrance to the Wing seemed quite accustomed to helping out in this way. I left my bags in their office and got tags for them. I had to wait perhaps 10 minutes for a staff member to become available, but then he escorted me as far as immigration into HKG. So I was stamped out and then stamped back in just 20 minutes later, after getting the photos. So you'll be able to do the same after spending the day in HKG.

There was some question above about getting a cabana to shower in the Wing. I've done this several times with no wait or just a minimal wait (they give you one of those vibrating buzzer things to let you know, so you can wait wherever you want in the lounge) since the remodel of the Wing, though I guess waiting times can vary. But I believe there are also shower rooms in addition to the cabanas, so you can wash up even if the cabanas are full.

Can't comment on using the Wing versus the Arrivals Lounge, but doing this via the Wing is pretty easy and the Wing (especially in F) is a very nice lounge.

Hope it all works out!

jerrywu Mar 30, 2015 5:21 pm


Originally Posted by nightkhan (Post 24590645)
As Cathay Boy explained it's free if you are MPC Silver, Gold or Diamond, or if you travelled to HK 3 times in a year. However you need to sign up first which is done after going through immigrations in the Arrivals Hall, so to answer your other question, no you cannot use it for a one time entry.

Believe or not, HK immigration officer would not process it when my friend completed his third visit to HK in a year. He said, "Yes 3 times, so next time you can apply." Got up, and he headed out for washroom .....:confused:

Cathay Boy Mar 31, 2015 4:44 am


Originally Posted by jerrywu (Post 24591358)
Believe or not, HK immigration officer would not process it when my friend completed his third visit to HK in a year. He said, "Yes 3 times, so next time you can apply." Got up, and he headed out for washroom .....:confused:

Maybe they count "3 times" as 3 in-and-out times.... so technically your friend is 2.5 times (in, and not out) and not 3 times....

I'm not saying this is it, just trying to read his mind....

jerrywu Mar 31, 2015 3:03 pm


Originally Posted by Cathay Boy (Post 24593407)
Maybe they count "3 times" as 3 in-and-out times.... so technically your friend is 2.5 times (in, and not out) and not 3 times....

I'm not saying this is it, just trying to read his mind....

Umm, this makes sense. ^^^

Duke787 Mar 31, 2015 9:25 pm


Originally Posted by QRC3288 (Post 24566453)
in transit on a CX ticket is defined as <24 hours, unless for the rare instances whereby a certain flight isn't daily and CX permitted the routing.

Question with regards to the above. If I'm on CX 879 (SFO - HKG) in F which arrives at 7pm at night and then am departing the next day at 12pm on KA 900 in J (HKG - PEK) will I be able to access the F portion of The Wing since the transit will be less than 24 hours or because of the overnight will I be limited to the J lounges via KA J

superflush Mar 31, 2015 11:28 pm


Originally Posted by flyerdude88 (Post 24598081)
Question with regards to the above. If I'm on CX 879 (SFO - HKG) in F which arrives at 7pm at night and then am departing the next day at 12pm on KA 900 in J (HKG - PEK) will I be able to access the F portion of The Wing since the transit will be less than 24 hours or because of the overnight will I be limited to the J lounges via KA J

I interpret that as though you'd be able to access the F part of The Wing. But I've never done it myself.

QRC3288 Apr 1, 2015 1:15 am


Originally Posted by flyerdude88 (Post 24598081)
Question with regards to the above. If I'm on CX 879 (SFO - HKG) in F which arrives at 7pm at night and then am departing the next day at 12pm on KA 900 in J (HKG - PEK) will I be able to access the F portion of The Wing since the transit will be less than 24 hours or because of the overnight will I be limited to the J lounges via KA J

To be honest, I am not sure. I am a DM member so have access to the Wing F regardless. What I am certain about is that <24 hours is how CX denotes a "transit" (vs "stopover") for ticket purposes, and that CX does allow(certain? all?) transit passengers arriving on an F flight transfer to regional J access to the F side, regardless if the departing flight is another day.

Hopefully some other folks on here can chime in to make sure. I'm certain I've seen folks post about this identical issue before.

alphaod Apr 1, 2015 3:11 am

My first time registering for E-Channel, I didn't know you could get it with your FFP card, so I waited until the third (not the fourth) on that passport and was registered with no issues. With my new passports, I have been using my MPO card now.

cxfan1960 Apr 2, 2015 7:05 pm


Originally Posted by alphaod (Post 24598865)
My first time registering for E-Channel, I didn't know you could get it with your FFP card, so I waited until the third (not the fourth) on that passport and was registered with no issues. With my new passports, I have been using my MPO card now.

Please stay on topic...

cxfan1960
CX CoMod

alphaod Apr 2, 2015 8:26 pm


Originally Posted by cxfan1960 (Post 24608486)
Please stay on topic...

cxfan1960
CX CoMod

Sorry, just going with the flow. :o

superflush Apr 3, 2015 12:38 am


Originally Posted by QRC3288 (Post 24598652)
To be honest, I am not sure. I am a DM member so have access to the Wing F regardless. What I am certain about is that <24 hours is how CX denotes a "transit" (vs "stopover") for ticket purposes, and that CX does allow(certain? all?) transit passengers arriving on an F flight transfer to regional J access to the F side, regardless if the departing flight is another day.

Hopefully some other folks on here can chime in to make sure. I'm certain I've seen folks post about this identical issue before.

Maybe this clarifies it:

"First and business class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 6am the following day, can access the lounge when traveling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than five hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa)."

From http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.c...l-itineraries/

LHR/MEL/Europe FF Apr 3, 2015 1:03 am


Originally Posted by superflush (Post 24609451)
Maybe this clarifies it:

"First and business class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 6am the following day, can access the lounge when traveling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than five hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa)."

From http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.c...l-itineraries/

this is helpful for OW->OW lounge access, but CX->CX has offers connecting pax slightly more generous rules.

Duke787 Apr 3, 2015 2:35 pm

Ahh thanks to those who chimed in. I guess I'll have to wait and see or better yet KA can release a 2nd F seat on the PEK flight and I can switch us to F for the PEK flight for free now that US and AA have merged their mileage programs and make this a none issue.

Worst case is we're forced to check out other lounges at HKG (I've only been in The Wing so probably a good thing but the gf is a fan of the champagne bar so don't want to disappoint)

superflush Apr 6, 2015 8:55 am


Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF (Post 24609499)
this is helpful for OW->OW lounge access, but CX->CX has offers connecting pax slightly more generous rules.

Okay. So, are you saying that CX is more generous, and would allow The Wing First Class section access even on the second day after 6am?


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