AA Plats are OWS (CX Gold Equivalent). The AA OWE is EXP, which requires 100K miles/points.

I propose…

40,000 for SL
80,000 for GO
160,000 for DM

:D

Ridiculously untrue. Most times my domestic routes are almost as expensive as my international routes.

Separate tickets for domestic routes (and short hauls too) are more expensive. So I felt that is consistent with nshizuka25's statement.

Thanks for clarifying it for me cxfan1960

Indeed, I am referring, to for example

LHR-HKG + HKG-NRT would be more expensive then LHR-HKG-NRT

or

NRT-HKG + HKG-SIN > NRT-HKG-SIN

Wouldn't be surprised if I find HKG-LHR is more expensive than TPE-HKG-LHR.

I was thinking about something like 6 lounge coupons for SL, and each 5000miles above 30K earns additional 1 coupon.

But given that direct flight brings more revenue, and to simplify rules, one lounge invitation for 1 check-in would make CX achieve its cost cutting, while most of the SLs wouldn't feel being cut too much.(far less incentive to go to other airline if they do enjoy the lounge) Neither short haul nor long haul SLs suffer more than each other.

If you're frequently connecting AA-CX or vv from MDT (which you've mentioned in other posts) the short domestic leg is an add-on because CX doesn't publish a through-fare HKG-MDT. But in cases where a carrier does publish through fares, it's well known that the savings can be substantial compared to a ticket that's flying only the long leg.

But what nshizuka25 absolutely has to be true in many cases, or you wouldn't have so many people doing ex-TPE or ex-MNL runs.

Not always, depends on which city you go to. For someone like me that travels to say WNZ on a regular basis, I don't remember the last time CX offered anything less than full Y fare. So even on the same ticket the price bump is significant.

Also TPE routes, it's either extreme discount fare (no miles) or Y/B are offered with miles (still don't understand why this is so, but whatever), so yes, since my company is paying for it I wanted some miles and wouldn't mind the price bump say a N fare vs. Y fare.

I have done price comparisons before, and I found out quite often my domestic routes (China, Taiwan) are regularly 40% of my total airfare (again, if one insists on mileage accrual, which is the whole point with FFP right, you want to entice people to fly with you at higher fare classes to maintain tiers). That's not chump change.

I'm not comparing the cheapest option, I'm saying CX is making a big mistake if they think everyone only lands in HKG. Many business travelers are like me that do multiple city hops and not just one hop. So yes, I recognize if I'm only doing MDT-ORD-HKG-ORD-MDT that is cheap as the MDT tag on is usually only $20-$50 USD more to the entire ticket! But I'm saying others might do something different and CX might lose out on their businesses.

For example: I usually do something like MDT-ORD-HKG-WNZ-HKG-CTU-HKG-TPE-HKG-PVG-HKG-ORD-MDT (or replace MDT with EWR without connecting at ORD), for someone like me that goes out of my way to stay loyal with CX, and CX is making a killing with my travel pattern; and if one day I'm back to SL, with the same travel pattern (just less frequency compare to now), CX is telling me I'm only eligible to 4 passes a year? Horrible.

Now, I don't have the actual numbers, but I'll imagine there are many business travelers that are doing what I'm doing.

I fly TPE, PVG, PEK, BLR very often. It is always a very small increment charge plus tax/surcharges for me, even though I almost always stop in HKG. Did you get the 40% from the cost breakdown in the ticket, or from the difference in fare between the total fare (all legs) and the R/T fare to HKG?

Again, what are your other options? Feel free to switch to other oneworld programs that would give you unlimited lounge access at Ruby level if you think that's horrible. CX has one of the most generous lounge access rules for Ruby level members already. Remember, 4 is still better than 0.

Just remember if you are talking about Wing F over crowding, any changes to Silver qualification will not affect that.

This is a thread for CX lovers discussing their disappointments with reduced benefits. Simply telling people to leave or shut up is not the spirit of this forum.

all legs

I really think CX is less concern about crown control but more concern about improving their bottom lines. So far in this thread the argument that makes the most sense is the use of other OW airlines by CX SL members flying CX flights in ports that have no CX lounges (JFK, ORD, etc.)

Sadly, CX, like all other corporations, are just trying to find out how much they can take away from their customers before getting a significant hit with revenue. If they think they got us anyway and reduced benefits, that will improve their profits earned dramatically.

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I think they should just rename this benefit as 4 lounge vouchers + free access in cx group lounges when flying cx group