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botfly Jun 26, 2014 9:57 pm

tier upgrade at checkin
 
Hello all,

I remember few years ago when I flew CX, their system will instantly upgrade your tier if the flight you are checking in hits the next tier threshold.

Does the same also apply if I fly and check in at one of the oneworld airlines?

Thanks in advance

fakecd Jun 26, 2014 10:06 pm

never happened to me

Cathay Boy Jun 26, 2014 10:08 pm


Originally Posted by botfly (Post 23103478)
Hello all,

I remember few years ago when I flew CX, their system will instantly upgrade your tier if the flight you are checking in hits the next tier threshold.

Does the same also apply if I fly and check in at one of the oneworld airlines?

Thanks in advance

I think each alliance passively checks other database for your status, so no, I doubt One-World alliance members have systems smart enough to check your status and proactively realized you're going to be up-tiered and give you up-tiered benefits for the flight.

midlevels Jun 26, 2014 10:39 pm

This doesn't even happen when you fly CX, let alone on other OW partners.

alphaod Jun 26, 2014 11:09 pm

What tier upgrade. My miles takes at least 2 days to post. Even then I'm not guarantee my status will have propagated through the system.

botfly Jun 27, 2014 12:04 am

What happened to me before was that I was Green HKG->SIN and then Silver when I checked in on my return trip SIN->HKG. Maybe I accrued enough points for the upgrade after my outbound trip, not inbound. Sorry for the confusion.

jona970318 Jun 27, 2014 1:53 am

You will only be displayed the status that you currently hold at the time you are checking in. In some instances, even if you have already hit the threshold, but the miles haven't posted yet for the flight, you will still be displayed the lower tier until your profile is updated

AussieCR Jun 27, 2014 9:10 am


Originally Posted by botfly (Post 23103884)
What happened to me before was that I was Green HKG->SIN and then Silver when I checked in on my return trip SIN->HKG. Maybe I accrued enough points for the upgrade after my outbound trip, not inbound. Sorry for the confusion.

This is what would have occurred as I was GO on an outbound LHR-TLV flight with BA with those miles pushing me to DM but that didn't occur until the miles posted which was only 2 days later, with then pretty much instant updating on CX as my return TLV-LHR with BA was as DM (on boarding pass) and only a day later.

sscywong Jun 28, 2014 9:54 am


Originally Posted by botfly (Post 23103884)
What happened to me before was that I was Green HKG->SIN and then Silver when I checked in on my return trip SIN->HKG. Maybe I accrued enough points for the upgrade after my outbound trip, not inbound. Sorry for the confusion.

If you sure normally you won't reach SL before completing your SIN-HKG, then likely MPC upgraded you in advance after reviewing your account

dkc192 Aug 7, 2014 5:18 am

A question along the lines of this thread...

I am currently a SL with 55,702 club miles. I am expecting 2930 club miles to be added to my account soon from a recent QR flight, which would take me to 58,632. On Sunday I will be traveling KUL-HKG-SFO in PE. The miles from the KUL-HKG sector (1718) should take me over the 60k threshold for GO, which would be great as the 7000+ miles for HKG-SFO would count toward maintaining GO for next year. However, I fear that the QR miles will post after my CX flights this week, which would "waste" some 5000 or so miles toward maintaining GO next year. Any idea if this is an issue that I can fix by calling/e-mailing CX, or if CX will proactively credit the miles as I wish (in order of flight date, not credit date)?

jagmeets Aug 7, 2014 8:45 am


Originally Posted by jumbojet19920711 (Post 23324023)
or if CX will proactively credit the miles as I wish (in order of flight date, not credit date)?

Be careful - very.
MPC counts the posting date and not the flight date. You might want to remove your MPC number from the HKG-SFO leg and retroactively credit later.

However, to complicate things, given how booked out PE/Coach have been this time of the year (i've been watching HKG-SFO for an award booking- usual student rush to the US, but it seems particularly bad to SFO this month), you might just have a chance at an op-up.

I also vaguely recall (might be wrong on this) having 2 connecting flights post on the same day and the club miles for the second flight were 'lost' (first one was enough to take me over the threshold) since they take a day or 2 to update the status. I think in those cases MPC tells you to contact them at the end of the new membership year in case you are short of a renewal/upgrade and they manually adjust the tier level.

Good Luck!

AussieCR Aug 8, 2014 9:08 am


Originally Posted by jumbojet19920711 (Post 23324023)
A question along the lines of this thread...

I am currently a SL with 55,702 club miles. I am expecting 2930 club miles to be added to my account soon from a recent QR flight, which would take me to 58,632. On Sunday I will be traveling KUL-HKG-SFO in PE. The miles from the KUL-HKG sector (1718) should take me over the 60k threshold for GO, which would be great as the 7000+ miles for HKG-SFO would count toward maintaining GO for next year. However, I fear that the QR miles will post after my CX flights this week, which would "waste" some 5000 or so miles toward maintaining GO next year. Any idea if this is an issue that I can fix by calling/e-mailing CX, or if CX will proactively credit the miles as I wish (in order of flight date, not credit date)?

I'm in the middle of a MNL-KUL-MNL trip on Malaysian Air and the first leg posted to CX in 2 days.. so you might see QR post quickly?;

08 Aug 2014 06 Aug 2014 Malaysia Airline
MH807 (Business Class)
Manila - Kuala Lumpur
1928 1.25 1928

Malaysian Air used to be pot luck.. some would take months others days, but recently all my trips have been days.. perhaps OW have simplified the process.

dkc192 Aug 9, 2014 3:05 am

The QR miles just posted. So am I correct in thinking that CX will credit my KUL-HKG miles, then upgrade me to GO, then credit my HKG-SFO miles? So I shouldn't need to remove my MPC number from the HKG-SFO flight for the miles for that flight to count toward renewing GO.

QRC3288 Aug 9, 2014 3:34 am


Originally Posted by jumbojet19920711 (Post 23334747)
The QR miles just posted. So am I correct in thinking that CX will credit my KUL-HKG miles, then upgrade me to GO, then credit my HKG-SFO miles? So I shouldn't need to remove my MPC number from the HKG-SFO flight for the miles for that flight to count toward renewing GO.

No, you are not correct in thinking this! I can hear you wanting to believe it, but saying it doesn't make it happen;). Did you see jagmeets' response? Basically, your question here contradicts his sound advice (IMO) to you.

The system isn't very advanced, or they intentionally make it ghetto. Either way, there is absolutely the chance CX posts your KUL-HKG and HKG-SFO sectors post at the identical time, and your HKG-SFO miles are "lost" towards elite renewal just like jagmeets says. It's annoying I know.

If you want to be safe, take it off. Unfortunately you're in a tough situation because you might be giving up an op-up. I have read on here of some guys going to huge extremes, getting the op-up and then trying to remove the MPC #, but obviously if you're getting a gate op-up that's just going to be awkward and might not be feasible. I actually don't even know if this can be done I just read some guys trying to do it on here.

And sorry, to make the day slightly worse, but CX seems to dump miles into your account at certain times. It's like they do sweeps at various times. I notice I get miles posted a lot during weekdays sometime in the middle of the night HK time. Weekends, particularly Sundays, are a no go. I think Saturday too but not certain....Sunday Asia time is definitely one of the days the system doesn't put miles in your account. I think normally I'd expect a Sunday flight to post at the earliest on Tuesday, which would make it even more likely your HKG-SFO posts at the same time during the same CX sweep of recent flights.

dkc192 Aug 9, 2014 10:59 pm


Originally Posted by QRC3288 (Post 23334802)
No, you are not correct in thinking this! I can hear you wanting to believe it, but saying it doesn't make it happen;). Did you see jagmeets' response? Basically, your question here contradicts his sound advice (IMO) to you.

The system isn't very advanced, or they intentionally make it ghetto. Either way, there is absolutely the chance CX posts your KUL-HKG and HKG-SFO sectors post at the identical time, and your HKG-SFO miles are "lost" towards elite renewal just like jagmeets says. It's annoying I know.

If you want to be safe, take it off. Unfortunately you're in a tough situation because you might be giving up an op-up. I have read on here of some guys going to huge extremes, getting the op-up and then trying to remove the MPC #, but obviously if you're getting a gate op-up that's just going to be awkward and might not be feasible. I actually don't even know if this can be done I just read some guys trying to do it on here.

And sorry, to make the day slightly worse, but CX seems to dump miles into your account at certain times. It's like they do sweeps at various times. I notice I get miles posted a lot during weekdays sometime in the middle of the night HK time. Weekends, particularly Sundays, are a no go. I think Saturday too but not certain....Sunday Asia time is definitely one of the days the system doesn't put miles in your account. I think normally I'd expect a Sunday flight to post at the earliest on Tuesday, which would make it even more likely your HKG-SFO posts at the same time during the same CX sweep of recent flights.

Ah, yes. I neglected to re-check jagmeets' post when posting my follow up. :D

I will probably just keep my MPC number on there in hope of either an instant miles upgrade at the airport today (I need the miles to redeem it and there may be higher chance of clearing with the status) or an op-up. Thanks all for the advice.


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