percysmith: thanks for sharing your recent J award booking experience.

My question is: when you confirm your outbound, do you have to confirm your inbound as well? Is it possible to just confirm the outbound and leave inbound waitlisted?

Also, I wonder what would happen if, hypothetically, your 29/9 inbound didn't clear. I guess they already deducted 120k when you confirmed outbound on 6/9? You traveled outbound, now there's no inbound available, would they refund you for the inbound flight? If so, how much?

Sorry these sound too many detailed questions. But with CX award redemption schemes (better RT than OW) and J/F spaces open up last days, I guess a lot of us will face the same waitlist issue.

Thanks!

Well in theory if there was no inbound to be confirmed, I may be forced to issue the outbound for 70,000 miles, keep my inbound waitlists, keep waiting for them even though after the outbound travel date (and I'm already in the US), clear them closer to return date and deduct another 70,000 miles, then apply for a 20,000 mile refund (120,000 R/T - 70,000 O/W x 2).

Thanks percysmith for reply!

Interesting to learn that one could apply for a 20k mile refund based on the two OW booking scenario. Also, if your inbound waitlist never clear, I guess just the outbound for 70k and that's it.

(I'm happy to be corrected on this) I think they have to be same booking so you need the waitlists on the inbound to be created before you ticket the outbound.

I'm personally livid about ticketing one-ways as revenue one-ways cost almost as much as a return with these FSCs.

FSC = :confused:

I think percysmith meant full service carrier.

percysmith, if you mean full service carrier, what does that have to do with the booking practice?

Yes

With FSCs (at least here in Asia) a one-way is priced at a very substantial portion of a return. With LCCs one-ways are priced separately.

'Hacking' the waitlist - works this way?
 

So...I have a confirmed one-way booking in U class booked by Avios on X date, but I would really want to travel on the X-1th in fact. No availability showing for X-1th, but AM waitlist open. I just tried to use my (balance-less) AM account to waitlist for the X-1th and it worked (I got a ref...that means I'm waitlisted right?)

So assuming that there are some AM waitlist quotas to fill for U class before opening up back to partners when it comes to almost to departure time (for X-1th), should I just use the AM accounts of all my family members to waitlist for the remaining U class spots, so when it comes to issuance deadline it'll just cancel out (we all have AM accounts with 0 miles) and me with my legit Avios U class booking get a greater chance to book in at that time?

The ticketing deadline is X-9th, if it matters...

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Please refer to posts #12-13 in this thread.

So, I waitlisted for the CX flight and it was confirmed through email about 3 weeks after. I canceled the waitlist shortly after the flight award is available through AM. However BA site does not show availability still whether immediately or after 2 days.

Does this mean the award belongs to a special fare group that's only available on AM?

No, it may also be released back to the revenue pool or may already by taken immediately by someone else before the BA site can sync up with AM.

Sorry I wasn't clear before. I waitlisted for the flight I want via AM 3 weeks ago, I got the email confirmation 2 days ago. I canceled the waitlist.

Right now, BA shows no availability still, however AM does (standard one way award, not priority). I've been checking it twice a day and BA can't book still for the exact same flight / class on the same day.

So I'm guessing that the waitlist request I made has opened up the space for AM redemption pool but not available to partners? Or does it take BA time to sync with AM and open space?

There are some limited circumstances, usually in the one seat available circumstances, where CX will have the seat in AM but not offer the seat to partners like BAEC.

I understand what you said, but as I said:
* Your released AM may not be released back to the award pool. It may not even get back to AM. It may return to the revenue pool.
* You are probably not the last person on the waitlist. It is very likely the next person down the waitlist already took your cancelled award within a second.
* My understanding is that databases are synced up at different times of the day.

Have noticed this on multiple occasions.

Have also noticed how one BAEC account sees a specific award space while another BAEC account doesn't see the same space.