FlyerTalk Forums

FlyerTalk Forums (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/index.php)
-   Cathay Pacific | Cathay (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-cathay-487/)
-   -   Seconds (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-cathay/1547464-seconds.html)

ricktoronto Feb 2, 2014 6:09 pm


Originally Posted by JCFans (Post 22262932)
Stupid question-- when traveling J or F do they allow you to ask for seconds or if I ask I will just look stupid?

Can I also eat at anytime, as in don't follow their regularly scheduled meal times?

Thank you.

If you are in F they are more accommodating than you can imagine. In J they have snacks as well as the main plate. Just ask.

I flew back alone in F HKG YYZ and they had catered all the appetizers and mains so the FA said I could have some or all of the many choices available.

Dr. HFH Feb 3, 2014 2:33 am

In F, the trick is not to think of the menu as a menu. It's an inventory listing of what's been loaded. Order what you want, as often as you want, whenever you want.

kaka Feb 4, 2014 2:02 am


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 22275373)
In F, the trick is not to think of the menu as a menu. It's an inventory listing of what's been loaded. Order what you want, as often as you want, whenever you want.

i also had flights where stuff ran out.

747867 Feb 5, 2014 4:53 am


Originally Posted by CanucksHKG (Post 22269629)
Or it can go into the crew's stomach! ;)

What's the avg life span of Y/PEY/J's meal once its been heated?

normally consumed in one hour.

kaka Feb 5, 2014 5:09 am

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 6_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/536.26 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.0 Mobile/10B142 Safari/8536.25)


Originally Posted by 747867

Originally Posted by CanucksHKG (Post 22269629)
Or it can go into the crew's stomach! ;)

What's the avg life span of Y/PEY/J's meal once its been heated?

normally consumed in one hour.

I think for passengers its 2 hrs max.

Dr. HFH Feb 6, 2014 2:44 am


Originally Posted by kaka (Post 22282434)
i also had flights where stuff ran out.

That does happen. If you know of something specific that you want, ask a member of the cabin crew and s/he'll try to hold some for you.

beckoa Feb 7, 2014 3:28 am

Wirelessly posted (beckoa's BB: Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9810; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.11+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/7.1.0.694 Mobile Safari/534.11+)

I've had 2-3 mains on flights before :o

Yes the steak 3/4 in was a bit much...but was sooo good :D

jona970318 Feb 7, 2014 9:44 am


Originally Posted by CanucksHKG (Post 22269629)
Or it can go into the crew's stomach! ;)

What's the avg life span of Y/PEY/J's meal once its been heated?

I think the company policy is 1 hour shelf life for J meals, not sure about other cabin

Orwaid Feb 9, 2014 2:01 pm

Hi -

The idea of of F menu as an inventory is absolutely correct.

I took a TPAC F flight and had double caviar, soup, no salad, my own "surf 'n turf" consisting of a full lobster tail and a perfect steak (both as mains), no cheese, and three desserts of cake, ice cream, and fresh berries in heavy clotted cream.

Burp.

And I also told them to keep some caviar for breakfast with my eggs and an extra portion of the berries and cream.

Sometimes you just have to fly CX F to remind yourself how the 1% lives.

dchen2 Feb 16, 2014 12:36 pm

I am envious of many of the people here's eating abilities!

I am a pretty big guy, 6'4"/220 and consider myself to have a hearty appetite. However, on my HKG-ORD/LAX/SFO F flights, I have never once had the room to order a second main. Usually by the time I finish my first main, I am 90-99% stuffed and still need spare room to sample the delightful sounding desert, falling into a food baby coma afterwards and usually skipping breakfast the next morning.

(The CX F bed has been so comfortable, I have not woken up in time nor was hungry enough to sample their famed fresh made to order breakfast eggs yet. I'll need to figure out a way to get back in CX F to remedy this deficiency asap!)

I am plenty guilty of having an extra serving (or two) of the caviar, Krug, and desert though!

Guess I need to stop being such a glutton at the F lounge before my flight... next time I'll fast for 24 hours before my CX F flight so I get my money's worth by eating them all out of onboard F food!

AAJetMan Feb 16, 2014 8:55 pm


Originally Posted by 747867 (Post 22269213)
1. I would be happy to serve if you ask. The food can't be reheated for the second time in case passengers want it later. It will just be wasted. I rather it goes into someone's stomach!

2. Passengers approached me before saying they wanted to have their meals later. in FCL of course no problem. In JCL and EY if extra meals are loaded, i will try to ask for their meal preference and save it for them. (Not a must, pls don't take for granted!)

I only HOPE that the FA's could eat the 1/2 of the HUGE angus steak that I left for them. I cut it in front of them and told them ("D" and "S") that I wouldn't be eating it all and hoped they would.
I have a big appetite but that steak was too much for me.
CX880 HKG-LAX very recently.

Happy Feb 22, 2014 9:19 pm


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 22275373)
In F, the trick is not to think of the menu as a menu. It's an inventory listing of what's been loaded. Order what you want, as often as you want, whenever you want.

Only when the F cabin is not full. We always seem to have a full flight and never have such luxury.


Originally Posted by kaka (Post 22282434)
i also had flights where stuff ran out.

Happened on our HKG-SFO flight in January. We did not even get our First choice! FA came to inform us the Chinese favorite appetizer only had one left and asked if we could take one of Western options. That was regardless they took the meal orders shortly after take off. We just chose not to eat until 2 hours into the flight. Then at serving time, they came to inform us only one Chinese appetizer was left! Given there were at least 2 passengers did not eat and went straight to sleep, I could only guess either they did not load the choices for every passenger, or worse thing happened.

QRC3288 Feb 22, 2014 9:41 pm


Originally Posted by Happy (Post 22399428)
Happened on our HKG-SFO flight in January. We did not even get our First choice! FA came to inform us the Chinese favorite appetizer only had one left and asked if we could take one of Western options. That was regardless they took the meal orders shortly after take off. We just chose not to eat until 2 hours into the flight. Then at serving time, they came to inform us only one Chinese appetizer was left! Given there were at least 2 passengers did not eat and went straight to sleep, I could only guess either they did not load the choices for every passenger, or worse thing happened.

Bummer. I've had this happen to me a number of times too. I never mind when I've been op-upped (CX FAs IME do a pretty good job of offering F op-ups their meal choices last, at least this is my experience), but it's kinda annoying when I'm on a revenue ticket they run out. Seems to happen with regularity.

I have absolutely no knowledge as to how F meals get loaded, but this is what I suspect: I think CX loads F class # of each meal based on a ratio for the number of revenue tix. Obviously, given the time lag, I'm betting they make this estimate at least a few hours (if not earlier) before flight departure. This could mean that last minute cash or Instant Upgrade awards put more people in F than CX expected, and sufficient catering for each option may not be loaded in time...I'm sure this is somewhat common especially with routes offering multiple frequencies daily. There's also the possibility that the FAs goofed up and offered op-ups choices before you, or forgot and served them your meals, or you just flew on an unlucky day and everyone wanted the same thing.

I do think CX is careful to track F meal inventory loading.

correctioncx Feb 23, 2014 12:36 am


Originally Posted by QRC3288 (Post 22399510)
Bummer. I've had this happen to me a number of times too. I never mind when I've been op-upped (CX FAs IME do a pretty good job of offering F op-ups their meal choices last, at least this is my experience), but it's kinda annoying when I'm on a revenue ticket they run out. Seems to happen with regularity.

I have absolutely no knowledge as to how F meals get loaded, but this is what I suspect: I think CX loads F class # of each meal based on a ratio for the number of revenue tix. Obviously, given the time lag, I'm betting they make this estimate at least a few hours (if not earlier) before flight departure. This could mean that last minute cash or Instant Upgrade awards put more people in F than CX expected, and sufficient catering for each option may not be loaded in time...I'm sure this is somewhat common especially with routes offering multiple frequencies daily. There's also the possibility that the FAs goofed up and offered op-ups choices before you, or forgot and served them your meals, or you just flew on an unlucky day and everyone wanted the same thing.

I do think CX is careful to track F meal inventory loading.

They have cut back and don't always load 6 of everything anymore!

However the Chinese options should have at least 4 as they always anticipate this is the popular option.

correctioncx Feb 23, 2014 12:38 am

When I was the only F pax a few days back they loaded 1 of everything and after boarding I told the FA my order and tell them to enjoy the rest.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:53 pm.


This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.