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cxfan1960 Jun 29, 2017 3:49 pm


Originally Posted by neofung (Post 28492001)
Chance of upgrade is not affected by time of check-in. However, affect the time you know if you are upgraded or not.

When I flied KIX-HKG, didn't do online check-in and on a redemption Y ticket. Arrived the airport 60 min before departure, the ground agent didn't mention anything when I check in. Yet, I was being called while in the lounge and said I was being upgraded to PEY on an A359.

Another flight from NGO to HKG, I booked PEY and arrived at the airport 2 hours prior departure. The GA said Y was overbooked so I might have chance to upgrade to J. However, she could not confirm at the time I check in.

Once also experienced an instant upgrade from Y to J while check in.

So, just be patient and wait. That is what you can do.

Chance of upgrade can be affected by check-in time, but to a lesser extent. When it does, the earlier the better chance.

Herman Lam Jul 1, 2017 10:07 pm

Can anyone help to figure out the loads?

Chances of upgrade: OWE in Y on CX255/10JUL?

Many thanks

calf613 Jul 1, 2017 11:55 pm

Can I ask what success people have had clearing redemption Business (U class) for HKG-YVR? My wife and I are doing a HKG-YVR-HKG RT with the below flights:

Thu, 11/23: CX838, 1620-1145, X (Econ) confirmed, U (Biz) and T (PEY) waitlisted
Mon, 11/27: CX889, 0110-0700, U confirmed, X and T waitlisted

Any prior experience as to chances of this clearing last-minute (and when), or help checking on loads to get a sense would be very much appreciated.

On a slightly OT note, is 1.5 hours sufficient for transfer at YVR if we are going into US? We are connecting to an AA flight to DFW

premier_flyer Jul 2, 2017 2:55 pm

On the Waiting List for Premium Economy
 
Hi All,

So, I've enough asiamiles to redeem a return PE flight from London-HK-Cebu.
After speaking with Marco Polo, I'm currently on the PE waiting list for 2 outbound flights on 23rd Dec. My inbound seats in January are available, so I'm halfway there!

First question is: Does having the inbound seats increase the likelihood of acquiring the outbound seats and confirming the flights in full?

I also spoke with CX reservations who informed me that there are lots of seats available on PE on those two outbound flights Dec 23. However, the Marco Polo staff weren't able to tell me how the waiting list works, ie if there's a quota, etc.
I've just been told to hang tight for a month, and if I receive an email then they'll have a seat on one of my outbound flights.

Second question: What is the quota on flights awards seats, and does CX wait until very close to the departure date to release those seats?

If this has been answered previously, apologies - I haven't seen it!

Thanks

percysmith Jul 2, 2017 8:17 pm


Originally Posted by premier_flyer (Post 28512098)
First question is: Does having the inbound seats increase the likelihood of acquiring the outbound seats and confirming the flights in full?

No relationship. Each flight seat released handled separately and what the waitlisted passengers' itineraries are are irrelevant


Originally Posted by premier_flyer (Post 28512098)
Second question: What is the quota on flights awards seats,

None when close in. It's just a matter of when


Originally Posted by premier_flyer (Post 28512098)
and does CX wait until very close to the departure date to release those seats?

13/6 PE to YVR released on 12/5 (waitlisted a month before). That flight was pretty available so pretty relevant to your case.

Update 3/7: I've a colleague waiting for HKG-LAX PE 15/8 who was cleared today, but it's the 26/8 return flight that's in demand.

percysmith Jul 2, 2017 8:21 pm


Originally Posted by calf613 (Post 28510003)
Thu, 11/23: CX838, 1620-1145, X (Econ) confirmed, U (Biz) and T (PEY) waitlisted
Mon, 11/27: CX889, 0110-0700, U confirmed, X and T waitlisted

13/6 CX888 PE: released on 12/5

13/6 CX888 F: released on 9/6

21/11/16 CX889 J: released on 15/11

10/3 CX889 F: 55 hours before departure

Current loads (both I9 E9 Q9, CX889 A4) are irrelevant for CX decision making. Too far ahead unfortunately.

calf613 Jul 2, 2017 8:53 pm

Thanks so much, percy! Given how close they seem to be releasing, I suppose I'll have to ticket the Y+J itinerary first (they gave me until end of July), and then keep the waitlist for J on the HKG-YVR leg subsequently.

Thanks again

percysmith Jul 2, 2017 9:49 pm


Originally Posted by calf613 (Post 28513142)
Thanks so much, percy! Given how close they seem to be releasing, I suppose I'll have to ticket the Y+J itinerary first (they gave me until end of July), and then keep the waitlist for J on the HKG-YVR leg subsequently.

CX thanks you for all the reissue fees you will be paying, which are paid on a per instance basis http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...l#post22819023

premier_flyer Jul 3, 2017 5:47 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 28513040)
No relationship. Each flight seat released handled separately and what the waitlisted passengers' itineraries are are irrelevant

None when close in. It's just a matter of when

Thanks for the insights Percysmith. My only concern is that I really don't want to risk waiting until just before the departure, and then there won't be any waitlisted seats open...

As a first timer redeeming flights reward - is being on the PE waiting lists just before Christmas a high risk of not getting a seat?

GF2B Jul 3, 2017 6:18 am

Can someone help with tomorrow's (4/7) CX746 (BAH-[DXB]-HKG) loads?

OWS (BAEC) traveling in Y.

Thanks!

(Also how do upgrades work on multi-sector flights (Eg this one with an intermediate stop in DXB? If BAH-DXB isn't full, will they only upgrade ex-DXB pax?)

percysmith Jul 3, 2017 6:32 am

Cx746 seems sold out in all fare classes.

Segment by segment.

calf613 Jul 3, 2017 7:40 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 28513268)
CX thanks you for all the reissue fees you will be paying, which are paid on a per instance basis http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...l#post22819023

I called to ask if I would have to pay a re-issue fee if I confirmed Y+J now and later issued J+J if I managed to confirm J at a later date per this. However, I tried asking (very nicely) if they would consider releasing J inventory for a DM member, which (after a brief hold) they were able to do!

Double issuance fees successfully avoided! At least this time around

Herostratus Jul 3, 2017 10:07 pm

ORD-HKG a couple of days ago

One friend in PE (Gold) 2 others in Economy (one of them Diamond) The two in economy got upgraded to business at check-in while the person in PE got no upgrade. All checked in together

percysmith Jul 4, 2017 12:08 am


Originally Posted by calf613 (Post 28514434)
I called to ask if I would have to pay a re-issue fee if I confirmed Y+J now and later issued J+J if I managed to confirm J at a later date per this. However, I tried asking (very nicely) if they would consider releasing J inventory for a DM member, which (after a brief hold) they were able to do!

Double issuance fees successfully avoided! At least this time around

Didn't notice your status
Yes you can release seats out of revenue inventory
I also thought you guys get waived reissue fees

jagmeets Jul 4, 2017 12:53 am


Originally Posted by Herostratus (Post 28517027)
ORD-HKG a couple of days ago

One friend in PE (Gold) 2 others in Economy (one of them Diamond) The two in economy got upgraded to business at check-in while the person in PE got no upgrade. All checked in together

Were the two in Economy on the same booking? Would lend credence to some value in being on the same PNR as a higher status member..


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