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travelmad478 May 9, 2017 3:56 pm


Originally Posted by G-CIVC (Post 28289787)
Before our other CX regulars (or those that don't fly with CX but somehow tend to masquerade as) chip in, just bear in mind that the statistical likelihood of that happening is going to be tiny.

Yes, I read the first post of this thread so I'm not expecting much of anything. I never expect much of anything on BA, either!


Originally Posted by G-CIVC (Post 28289787)
In fact if you are going somewhere else (i.e. not terminating in HKG) the fare difference may not be as high as you think, it could be like $2-3k (roundtrip) so you can still try calling in.

It's EWR-HKG-SIN, RT. When I booked the fare originally, PE was $1700 and Business was something like $4K, so that's what I'd expect to see (and that's more than I want to spend). Really, I only want to upgrade the outbound EWR-HKG leg, so if there were a way to do that for substantially less than $2300, I'd consider it.


Originally Posted by G-CIVC (Post 28289787)
And there's actually 'option 4)', another wildcard but I'll need EWR regulars to validate this, sometimes CX may sell you day-of-departure upgrades, not sure if this happens at EWR but sometimes I see offers at ORD, my regular outstation.

I'll be on the lookout for that, for sure.

QRC3288 May 10, 2017 1:39 am


Originally Posted by G-CIVC (Post 28288857)
No, you cannot.

You have EWR-HKG in E. Your options are
1) Upfare to R (next PE bucket) and upgrade by asia miles subject to availability, 27,500 asia miles one way; or
2) Upfare to I (subject to your ticket fare rules) but the difference is likely to be astronomical.
3) Chance an op up as BA Gold.

This is good recommendation.

Op: #1 might not be too bad, especially for one way. You should check. It might only be $300 USD or do plus the Asia Miles.

This will be really easy if you already have Asia Miles. If you're not an Asia Miles regular, since I don't think any currencies transfer instantaneously to AM, this is more of a pickle.

If you DO have Asia Miles and at least infrequently use them, then keep 30k miles in your account on standby, and then you get the airport ask 1) if biz "Instant Upgrade" award space are available (this is Asia Miles parlance for an Asia Miles upgrade award processed at the airport, instead of in advance), and if so how much the upfare to R is. This would be best.

Because if you aren't an Asia Miles regular, it will suck to transfer the miles to AM only to find out no inventory is available into U (biz award inventory) for the Instant Upgrade.

And as said above, only currency you can use to upgrade CX tickets is Asia Miles.

travelmad478 May 10, 2017 6:02 am

I have no Asia Miles (have never flown CX before). Unless I can create some by transfer Amex or Chase points into a new account, Option 1 is not possible at all. But thank you.

travelmad478 May 21, 2017 10:50 pm


Originally Posted by G-CIVC (Post 28289787)
Before our other CX regulars (or those that don't fly with CX but somehow tend to masquerade as) chip in, just bear in mind that the statistical likelihood of that happening is going to be tiny.

Well, based on my sample size of n=1, I am absolutely thrilled to report that the statistical likelihood was 100% tonight. I did in fact get upgraded to J upon arrival to EWR (and I did online check-in, too--wasn't expecting this!) My life is immeasurably better right now than it was 30 minutes ago. I was really dreading that long PE flight.

G-CIVC May 21, 2017 11:38 pm


Originally Posted by travelmad478 (Post 28342762)
Well, based on my sample size of n=1, I am absolutely thrilled to report that the statistical likelihood was 100% tonight. I did in fact get upgraded to J upon arrival to EWR (and I did online check-in, too--wasn't expecting this!) My life is immeasurably better right now than it was 30 minutes ago. I was really dreading that long PE flight.

Well, congratulations - I've had good luck (100% in fact) with North America-HKG PE to J op ups when I was OW Sapphire/Emerald last year. Just withhold your excitement and keep the gopros/camera flash away or else the CX FFs will start their eyerolling and bashing, and just enjoy your flight! You will like CX as a BA FF.

travelmad478 May 22, 2017 3:32 pm


Originally Posted by G-CIVC (Post 28342865)
Well, congratulations - I've had good luck (100% in fact) with North America-HKG PE to J op ups when I was OW Sapphire/Emerald last year. Just withhold your excitement and keep the gopros/camera flash away or else the CX FFs will start their eyerolling and bashing, and just enjoy your flight! You will like CX as a BA FF.

Not to worry, I am not a yokel (although this being my first CX flight, I did have to ask the FA where they kept the headsets!) I am hoping that 100% holds up for my return flight next week :D Sadly, no upgrade for my connecting HKG-SIN flight in a few hours, but as that's a much shorter flight I can just about endure it ;)

Huming Xie Jun 10, 2017 10:27 pm


Originally Posted by sxc (Post 21686842)
This thread is to add questions that commonly come up regarding upgrade on Cathay Pacific.

Please feel free to add questions to the Wikipost at the beginning for common upgrade questions.

Well I have such an experience from my last two trips where I bought round trip tickets (not the upgradable classes with miles, class V) from NYC to Hong Kong and Cathay just upgraded the flight from NYC to Hong Kong for me. But the return flight stays the same. I wonder if they will upgrade my flight again this time. I am flying again on Monday. I wonder why, is that because of my loyalty? I've been member since 2010 and once a gold member.

Anybody knows why?

HaK888 Jun 12, 2017 4:57 am

Can anyone assist and reply with the seat availability for CX828 - 14June; Hubby's booked in E and wondering on capacity and if any chance of OpUp to PE; (MP Green)

He's presently booked in 1st Row Bulkhead Window in E - any reviews/comments on this seat (already checked on SeatGuru)

Much appreciated

chitink Jun 14, 2017 9:04 am

I am one world emerald but nothing with CX. Do they offer upgrades at the airport for money instead of Asia Miles? Currently in PE would love to Business (booked flight thru Orbitz).

QRC3288 Jun 14, 2017 9:37 am


Originally Posted by chitink (Post 28441668)
I am one world emerald but nothing with CX. Do they offer upgrades at the airport for money instead of Asia Miles? Currently in PE would love to Business (booked flight thru Orbitz).

You can upgrade by paying the fare difference. The sub fare class is what matters. If your fare is non refundable then no. Short of just eating the cost and buying a J ticket. If you paid a lot and are in W class (full fare PEY), the difference might only be 1k USD. But most likely more.

Fyi Asia Miles are only eligible for W and E class upgrades. No E.

There is no let's make a deal, aka a reduced fare upgrade sale.

The status is irrelevant.

chitink Jun 14, 2017 9:44 am

I called just now and they said since I booked through Orbitz I can't even pay for an upgrade. Its booked into R class. Does that mean I will also miss out on any tiny chance for an Op up?

QRC3288 Jun 14, 2017 10:04 am


Originally Posted by chitink (Post 28441893)
I called just now and they said since I booked through Orbitz I can't even pay for an upgrade. Its booked into R class. Does that mean I will also miss out on any tiny chance for an Op up?

Op up isn't affected.

Where are you flying?

sscywong Jun 14, 2017 10:07 am


Originally Posted by QRC3288 (Post 28441853)
You can upgrade by paying the fare difference. The sub fare class is what matters. If your fare is non refundable then no. Short of just eating the cost and buying a J ticket. If you paid a lot and are in W class (full fare PEY), the difference might only be 1k USD. But most likely more.

Fyi Asia Miles are only eligible for W and E class upgrades. No E.

There is no let's make a deal, aka a reduced fare upgrade sale.

The status is irrelevant.

Re paying the fare difference to upgrade

Few months before I also thought that the price is J minus [whatever your class fare]... But then I found that IF there's available sub-class for sale...

W / Y fare -> J fare
R / B fare sometimes -> C fare

But how is the mapping done... I don't know...

G-CIVC Jun 14, 2017 11:48 am

Depends on outport ;) On my DoD ORD flight last week they were offering $650 for W to J. It was even shown on the FIDS :p but seems that there were no takers.

sscywong Jun 15, 2017 9:25 am


Originally Posted by G-CIVC (Post 28442445)
Depends on outport ;) On my DoD ORD flight last week they were offering $650 for W to J. It was even shown on the FIDS :p but seems that there were no takers.

Actually that's a bargain... I paid nearly US$1000 to move my HKG-JFK//YYZ-HKG Y booking to W...

When will they re-launch Enhance?


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