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Howard Long Dec 6, 2012 5:14 pm

Toast
 
Over the weekend I had my first CX trip LHR-HKG-HND and NRT-HKG-LHR, and to make sure about it I travelled in F. I have to say that CX will absolutely be on my radar in future on the basis of these four segments, and mostly thanks to this forum I made the most of it. Certainly it is a step change from BA and QF in F when on board, and as for AA, well, probably best left unsaid.

But I have a really simple question. Does the toast made 'fresh' in the toaster always taste so dry? I am hoping not, and I was just unlucky. To be fair I only tried it on the final leg, HKG-LHR. I was seriously enjoying my beauty sleep on that superb seat on the other two excuses I had to take breakfast.

The fried eggs are almost totally perfect, and certainly better than I can consistently achieve at home. But the toast? Was I just unlucky and the bread was stale?

The toast was definitely made in the toaster because as an airline geek I asked to take a look at this almost unique and curious airbourne contraption while in action.

Cheers, Howard

Dr. HFH Dec 6, 2012 6:09 pm

You have two problems. One is that the air in an airplane is very dry. The second is that the temperature of the toaster is lower than that of a regular toaster. This means that the bread toasts longer to get the same degree of doneness, drying it out a bit.

number_6 Dec 6, 2012 6:22 pm

It is "melba toast" though CX is to be commended for trying, and generally unsuccessful.

correctioncx Dec 6, 2012 7:46 pm

It is excellent for caviar and balik salmon

mayodave Dec 6, 2012 11:19 pm

caviar and balik salmon is totally over rated. Tried it so many times and frankly it does nothing for me. Give me a fresh BBQ sardine and raw onion any day.

sxc Dec 7, 2012 12:19 am


Originally Posted by mayodave (Post 19811374)
caviar and balik salmon is totally over rated. Tried it so many times and frankly it does nothing for me. Give me a fresh BBQ sardine and raw onion any day.

Although I agree with the over-ratedness of Caviar....but BBQ sardine and onion??

Howard Long Dec 7, 2012 1:03 am

I agree that CX are to be commended for trying, and now I know it's dry, I agree it would be a half decent accompaniment to the caviar, which personally speaking I like and appreciate, overrated or not.

What I would say is that if it's always like that then I'd question the point of having the toaster at all, as the prefab toast of other airlines is of similar texture without a toaster.

But as mentioned it's a good effort, just not a great result.

Cheers, Howard

sxc Dec 7, 2012 1:06 am

I think they need to use a different kind of toast. Maybe a thicker, bouncier kind of bread that keeps moisture more.

correctioncx Dec 7, 2012 5:19 am


Originally Posted by Howard Long (Post 19811638)
I agree that CX are to be commended for trying, and now I know it's dry, I agree it would be a half decent accompaniment to the caviar, which personally speaking I like and appreciate, overrated or not.

What I would say is that if it's always like that then I'd question the point of having the toaster at all, as the prefab toast of other airlines is of similar texture without a toaster.

But as mentioned it's a good effort, just not a great result.

Cheers, Howard

Actually the BA first toast are pretty dry I recall? But they don't use a toaster

mkjr Dec 7, 2012 8:35 am

from what i can see, the hard product in J on CX is as good as BA F...:D now if only i could get some fried eggs in J.

Howard Long Dec 7, 2012 9:46 am


Originally Posted by correctioncx (Post 19812228)
Actually the BA first toast are pretty dry I recall? But they don't use a toaster

Yes, that was indeed my yardstick.

I think CX are the only scheduled airline to offer a toaster?

Also, agreed with an earlier poster that they probably need to use different bread, thicker sliced. Or, <salivates> crumpets... Mmmm

It could just be the way the bread is handled: if it's been sitting drying out as individual slices on the food carts rather than a sealed sliced loaf it's hardly surprising it tastes like cardboard. I almost feel it's another excuse for a weekend away again purely for investigative purposes of course. Wouldn't take much convincing. The number of times a food idea works great on the ground when tested and then fails miserably at 35,000', where it hasn't been tested, is astonishing.

Two other really small things came to mind (apols for going a little OT).

I noticed CX don't have dessert wine: so I brought a small 200ml bottle of icewine from duty free on board for the last segment, but they politely refused my request to open it and serve it for me. I did not press the point, ask once is enough IMHO, anything more and you're a difficult pax. No problem, I understand they have rules, although this is the first time my request for the crew to serve me from my own selection has been turned down, having had repeated success with this on both SQ and AA. I would love to see dessert wine on CX.

They could do with larger wine glasses too, the current ones are verging on thimbles. I brought my own stemless glassware on board as a result (I do the same on other airlines too, it's not only CX).

These are small points in the big scheme of things, but when you're searching for perfection, it's worth mentioning it.

Cheers, Howard

mkjr Dec 7, 2012 11:29 am


Originally Posted by Howard Long (Post 19813474)
I noticed CX don't have dessert wine: so I brought a small 200ml bottle of icewine from duty free on board for the last segment, but they politely refused my request to open it and serve it for me. I did not press the point, ask once is enough IMHO, anything more and you're a difficult pax. No problem, I understand they have rules, although this is the first time my request for the crew to serve me from my own selection has been turned down, having had repeated success with this on both SQ and AA. I would love to see dessert wine on CX.

i know, as i am sure you know, BA has no problem with this and in fact, has posted over on FT it is fully permitted. i would have asked for a glass of apple juice, drank it and refilled...:D

Howard Long Dec 7, 2012 2:51 pm


Originally Posted by mkjr (Post 19814096)
i know, as i am sure you know, BA has no problem with this and in fact, has posted over on FT it is fully permitted. i would have asked for a glass of apple juice, drank it and refilled...:D

Yes, next time I'll find a screw top. Seriously though, my own, quite possibly parochial, understanding is that alcohol can only be served by crew. At least I've historically used that as a rule-of-thumb, and made that clear at the point of request.

It may have been a one-off response or it might be a clear rule, I don't know. Either way the last thing I want to do is to ruin the rest of a flight by putting both crew and myself in a difficult position, so I respected their response from the get go.

Actually I've never had my own booze on BA save for an incident back in the mid '80's when I was diverted from YVR to SFO due to fog. I was in Y, 19 years old, and had a bottle of duty free vodka that I was afraid was going to be confiscated by US customs as I was under age. So during the two hour diversion with the help of some other happy-go-lucky pax we gulped the lot. My recollections of SFO at that time are thus somewhat hazy.

Cheers, Howard

Central90210 Dec 7, 2012 3:30 pm


Originally Posted by mayodave (Post 19811374)
caviar and balik salmon is totally over rated. Tried it so many times and frankly it does nothing for me. Give me a fresh BBQ sardine and raw onion any day.

Not to mention they're being total hypocrites by banning the shipment of sharks fin on CX metal but continue to serve caviar in F. Sturgeons are just as endangered as sharks.

mkjr Dec 7, 2012 8:52 pm


Originally Posted by Howard Long (Post 19815320)
Yes, next time I'll find a screw top. Seriously though, my own, quite possibly parochial, understanding is that alcohol can only be served by crew. At least I've historically used that as a rule-of-thumb, and made that clear at the point of request.

It may have been a one-off response or it might be a clear rule, I don't know. Either way the last thing I want to do is to ruin the rest of a flight by putting both crew and myself in a difficult position, so I respected their response from the get go.

Actually I've never had my own booze on BA save for an incident back in the mid '80's when I was diverted from YVR to SFO due to fog. I was in Y, 19 years old, and had a bottle of duty free vodka that I was afraid was going to be confiscated by US customs as I was under age. So during the two hour diversion with the help of some other happy-go-lucky pax we gulped the lot. My recollections of SFO at that time are thus somewhat hazy.

Cheers, Howard

What is rather ironic is that on one of my very first TPAC flights on Thai from nrt in the 90s, at 16 some us border guard noticed the duty free bag from nrt. Of course I was holding it for my chaperone. I appreciate your respect for the rules. A pen can usually push a cork in. :D.

What is amazing is that ba will chill your duty free champers and serve it to you. Love it.


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