No F from YYZ and routing through YVR is $250 extra. Good luck.
The Arrival is already getting crowded.

Just had another look at what was replied... again, Ms Sim didn't mention anything about Amex Platinum and GO benefits that given to them for free... she always just refer the issue to the Centurion, this happened to her letter to me, her letter to another member of this forum and again, her letter to you.

I personally agree with garykung’s view and believe the free GO to Amex Plat has a greater impact than DM to Amex Cent 'cos Amex Plat is open to the general public with very little difficulties to obtain. On the other hand, as we have discussed on another thread, the Amex Cent DM membership is a cherry-picking process with much less impact IMO.

If Ms Sim didn't get this right she might never understand why we MPC GOs think the benefits are diluted and she might never understand why MPC SLs, who fly at least 30k miles per year, think this is unfair.

I suggest OP could emphasie this in the letter and get the message clearly delivered. We don't want another response stating the offer was "targeted to selected Centurion cardholders" - that's just NOT the point... maybe at this particular point of time they still haven't realised that this "business strategy" with Amex has the fact of giving MPC GOs to the general public at a annual cost of $699 (Amex Plat annual fee in Canada) or $900 (Amex Plat annual fee in Australia).

Probably would just use them on Asian routes. Not sure. I have been on Cathay once in my life, I think. Honestly, my first priority is maintaining Super Elite (100k miles) status on AC.

Actually this might be what they end up doing! I won't get surprised that this is what they could offer - to exend whatever status we got now for free for another year and make us shut up... :o

To upgrade you the the next tier for free is another action - again, won't cost them a cent but try to keep us shut up.

That is if interline allows and connection times are good if you can't pass a night in HKG.
Mine is maintaining AA EXP as I can earn miles on all fares but credit to CX on CX flights because I get free benefits as an EXP and because I typically purchase V, L, M fares.
Only if Y or W is bought for me will I consider upgrading to an I fare.

Never had any problem interlining. almost every tpac is on multiple tickets. I started that when AC issued non status fares on codeshare connections.

... and what shall we say if you choose to fly with CX on a J? Whether you are going to be upgraded from J to F - we don't know... some of us here including Jane's Addiction believe as DMs their revenue to CX will certainly give them the priority over Amex DMs in term of op-up (let's not argue about it here cos I doubt it), I don't think giving you an op-up to F is a big deal - you are at least paying or redeeming a J seat so good luck with it.

Upon your arrival to HKIA, you might end up enjoying the already-dilluted DM benefits which include but not limited to an over-crowded lounge (the Wing is under renovation and there is NO first class lounge for other OW members which means you will share the Pier first class lounge with all CX DMs plus QF WP plus all AA/JL/BA/AY/S7/LA and soon MH equivalent) - actually if you do end up with flying CX you might be much better off heading to Qantas First Class lounge opens in December straight away (http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-new-f...os-angeles-lax) - my personal view as I would do it if I were you.

Quants F lounge sounds nice. I dunno, really. If I book J and fly J I have no problem with that. If I need to fy F I book F. In reality, folks, you ain't gonna see any dilution from this Amex DM!

This letter is pretty much CX's official response - go F yourself.

CX HK has written the letter.

My real concern is how far this "creativity" can go.

Most of you know that in HKG, there is a AMEX CX Elite card that give out GR for free.

What don't we make it more creative - those who spend HKD$100,000 get free SL?

A lot of airlines "sell" elite benefits. But you don't see one actually selling the status.

^ What time ?

Unfortunately I am flying to SIN that day... and on SQ :(

I thought amex cent is not that cheap to obtain? Also I know of a few directors that have an amex cent that never flies with CX. And since he got CX diamond he still doesn't fly CX, he flies QF instead. So I don't see any issues there :)

+1

Not only expensive to maintain, but it can't be obtained by request.

I know a few directors who never flied with CX - but now realised it's much better off to convert their Amex points to Asia Miles rather than QFF (e.g. Business Class redemption between SYD-HKG on either CX or QF needs 80k Asia Miles and 120k QFF).

Australian Amex program converts one membership reward point to one Asia Miles or one QFF.

They have also learnt that by taking the Amex Cent DM offer their chance to secure a J redemption on CX as a DM is much higher than redeeming them with QF – ‘cos they are nobody to QF.

I agree Amex Cent is expensive to maintain - at least that's expensive to me (I don't think I will pay the AUD5,000 join fee plus AUD5,000 annual fee in Australia for that).

But Amex Plat is not expensive to maintain (AUD900 per year) and you can get it by applying it online.

Although I think SYD-HKG-SYD it's very easy to get J award seats a few weeks out even without status....