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ff_flyer99 Oct 1, 2011 6:44 pm

Why Simplified Chinese?
 
I noticed on the US/Canada version of the site, there is one promotion section that is only avaliable in Chinese text. Here is an example: http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_...IMULTI-23MAR11

My question is why is it in Simplified Chinese instead of Traditional Chinese? HK uses Traditional characters, not the simplified ones, right?

Cathay Boy Oct 1, 2011 7:39 pm


Originally Posted by ff_flyer99 (Post 17205253)
I noticed on the US/Canada version of the site, there is one promotion section that is only avaliable in Chinese text. Here is an example: http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_...IMULTI-23MAR11

My question is why is it in Simplified Chinese instead of Traditional Chinese? HK uses Traditional characters, not the simplified ones, right?

You go where the sugardaday goes - it's no secret majority of CX's pax is shifting demographic to the mainland Chinese side, so it's not a surprise that they cater to mainland Chinese.

Heck even Taiwan does that everytime when a mainland business group comes to Taiwan, they would write things in simplified Chinese and even take down the Taiwan flag (or Republic of China flag) in fear of offending the mainland Chinese people.

People who have money have power, and we are seeing that...

cxfan1960 Oct 1, 2011 9:03 pm

It is supposed to be an English page.:confused:

ff_flyer99 Oct 1, 2011 9:55 pm


Originally Posted by Cathay Boy (Post 17205415)
You go where the sugardaday goes - it's no secret majority of CX's pax is shifting demographic to the mainland Chinese side, so it's not a surprise that they cater to mainland Chinese.

Heck even Taiwan does that everytime when a mainland business group comes to Taiwan, they would write things in simplified Chinese and even take down the Taiwan flag (or Republic of China flag) in fear of offending the mainland Chinese people.

People who have money have power, and we are seeing that...

The reason for my question is because this is the North American version websites. If I saw that for the Mainland version, I wouldn't ask the question in the first place. Don't know why they are using simplified for a section of the North American versions.

toyotaboy95 Oct 2, 2011 12:23 am


Originally Posted by cxfan1960 (Post 17205676)
It is supposed to be an English page.:confused:

The US site is supposed to be English only (I guess not many Chinese IT staff working at CX US), but they've specially made a single page to accommodate Chinese (more specifically Mainland) pax. See http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_US/homepage, there's a link to the Simplified Chinese page

http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/home...ing_165x80.jpg

percysmith Oct 2, 2011 12:44 am


Originally Posted by ff_flyer99 (Post 17205253)
I noticed on the US/Canada version of the site, there is one promotion section that is only avaliable in Chinese text. Here is an example: http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_...IMULTI-23MAR11

My question is why is it in Simplified Chinese instead of Traditional Chinese? HK uses Traditional characters, not the simplified ones, right?

Maybe it's cos they think English speakers will pay more. My Girlfriend pointed out the Chinatrust hotel we stayed in in Taiwan (the one with DCC http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...k-79.html#1180) - some heavily discounted rates were only available on the Chinese version of the hotel website and not the English (which I normally use) - it's good to be bilingual

kaka Oct 2, 2011 3:21 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 17206141)
Maybe it's cos they think English speakers will pay more. My Girlfriend pointed out the Chinatrust hotel we stayed in in Taiwan (the one with DCC http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...k-79.html#1180) - some heavily discounted rates were only available on the Chinese version of the hotel website and not the English (which I normally use) - it's good to be bilingual

i figiured this out a few years earlier. some places has language #1 and english having different prices. Rakuten (japan) is one - thanks for the kanji and some katakana i usualy book japanese hotels through them.

Awesom Andy Oct 2, 2011 7:16 am

Given that most of the destinations on the page are Chinese cities, that makes sense.

tycosiao Oct 2, 2011 8:20 am


Originally Posted by Awesom Andy (Post 17206886)
Given that most of the destinations on the page are Chinese cities, that makes sense.

Agreed.

To be frank, a Chinese can read and understand both simplified and traditional Chinese most of the time.

ernestnywang Oct 2, 2011 2:34 pm

I'd say the reason is presumably there are more Mainland PAX who cannot read English (proportionally) that Taiwanese and HKG PAX?

CX HK Oct 2, 2011 4:11 pm


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 17208476)
I'd say the reason is presumably there are more Mainland PAX who cannot read English (proportionally) that Taiwanese and HKG PAX?

Probably true, and that maybe the target customers were Mainlanders anyways.

Guy Betsy Oct 3, 2011 9:08 am

Actually, only HK & Taiwan use the traditional characters. Singapore adopted the simplified characters way back in the 70's and went through a few 'changes' as I remembered them to be. Anywhere outside of HK/Taiwan, only the simplified characters are used and taught. And with HK being part of China now, the simplified characters will be the norm nowadays.

garykung Oct 3, 2011 11:27 am

Why so serious?

As soon as the price is the same, I see no problem at all.


Originally Posted by tycosiao (Post 17207101)
Agreed.

To be frank, a Chinese can read and understand both simplified and traditional Chinese most of the time.


Originally Posted by Guy Betsy (Post 17211978)
Actually, only HK & Taiwan use the traditional characters. Singapore adopted the simplified characters way back in the 70's and went through a few 'changes' as I remembered them to be. Anywhere outside of HK/Taiwan, only the simplified characters are used and taught. And with HK being part of China now, the simplified characters will be the norm nowadays.

As a fact, only Chinese-decent from Hong Kong knows both.

Mainlander and Singaporean mostly don't know TC. Taiwanese don't know SC.


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 17208476)
I'd say the reason is presumably there are more Mainland PAX who cannot read English (proportionally) that Taiwanese and HKG PAX?

Trust me - when a Mainlander does not know how to fill out a Custom Form, then you know how well English they have (real experience from Air Canada).

m.y Oct 3, 2011 1:09 pm


Originally Posted by garykung (Post 17212822)

As a fact, only Chinese-decent from Hong Kong knows both.

Mainlander and Singaporean mostly don't know TC. Taiwanese don't know SC.



Trust me - when a Mainlander does not know how to fill out a Custom Form, then you know how well English they have (real experience from Air Canada).

How is that a fact? Since only traditional Chinese is taught in HK and most signs and publications are in TC. Like Mainlanders and Taiwanese, HK people would have to learn the other character on their own.

The difference between SC and TC is not that great, as many SC are simplified using same rules. One can also guess the odd ones using context of the sentence.

How do you extrapolate one instance of one mainlander who didn't know how to fill out Custom Form to make conclusion a whole population? What about the other Mainlanders on the flight who knew how to fill out the form? Sometimes new travelers who are native English speakers have trouble filling out Custom Form too.

m.y Oct 3, 2011 1:13 pm


Originally Posted by Guy Betsy (Post 17211978)
Actually, only HK & Taiwan use the traditional characters. Singapore adopted the simplified characters way back in the 70's and went through a few 'changes' as I remembered them to be. Anywhere outside of HK/Taiwan, only the simplified characters are used and taught. And with HK being part of China now, the simplified characters will be the norm nowadays.

Malaysia adopted Mainland simplified characters too. In Japan, they also simplified Kanji characters using very different rules.


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