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Some suggestions to CX
CX has now code-shared with JL for all HKG-Japan routes, as well as some Japan domestic routes.
Can the same idea to be used to establish code-sharing with BA for HKG-LHR & UK domestic routes, as well as QF for HKG-Australia & Australia domestic routes? This can improve the relationship among CX, BA, QF and this helps to expand HKG as an alternative stopping point for Kangaroo Route other than SIN, BKK. |
I would like to see CX codeshare with IT (future OW partner) between BKK-CCU.
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This brings anti-competition issue.
oneworld currently dominates LHR-HKG - BA CX QF operates over 80% of the capacity but individually so they are still competeting (to a less degree tho). British authorities wouldn't be able to justify such approval - it will damage customer's interests. When CA CX KA codeshared all PEK-HKG routes, economy fare went rocket high and never came down. |
There are still some non-Oneworld airlines to compete for HKG-LHR route: VS, NZ. So, Oneworld is still not dominating the HKG-LHR route.
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It is hard to see QANTAS and CX cooperating like that, given their prickly relationship in the past.
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Originally Posted by derek2010
(Post 14950031)
There are still some non-Oneworld airlines to compete for HKG-LHR route: VS, NZ. So, Oneworld is still not dominating the HKG-LHR route.
On any given day of the HKG-LHR non-stop market. There are: CX 4 B744 BA 2 B744 QF 1 B744 So oneworld: 7 B744 daily NZ 1 B744 VS 1 A346 So let us call it 2 B744 daily (or 1.76 B744 if you want to be more prescisely) for non oneworld Which means oneworld has at least 78% market share on this route (by counting the available seats oneworld would top at least 82%). And you do not think this is dominant position? |
Let's hope that they do not cooperate. If they do fares will shoot up.
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But how about HKG-Australia routes? i think CX have to provide code-sharing with QF, so as to:
1. provide new routes under QF's code, like HKG-ADL, HKG-CNS. 2. compete with VS for HKG-SYD route. 3. provide CX an opportunity to do code-sharing for Australia domestic routes. |
I don't see CX and QF codeshares anytime soon.
HKG-PER is weekly 3x QF and 10x CX ( soon as I think as the OW scheduler is strange at the moment) and the only concession QF has made is they permit routing via SIN for the same fare with a CX coded (not QF code on CX metal) SIN-HKG. Same for QF on the PER-NRT route (no QF code on JL metal SIN-NRT) though interestingly JL does have a codeshare PER-SIN on the QF flights. Still seems QF management has forgotten PER exists. Fred |
Originally Posted by IC6A
(Post 14950537)
You have to look at the fact:
On any given day of the HKG-LHR non-stop market. There are: CX 4 B744 BA 2 B744 QF 1 B744 |
Originally Posted by Rejuvenated
(Post 14955152)
BA used to operate 3 744s on this route. Albeit all 3 were evening HKG departures.
2008 you can find fares at £420 for non-stop 2009 it rised to £450 then further £480 after BA cancelled one flight 2010 it has been above £480 all the time and look out for 2011 is around £520-560. Should VS put another flight online I think BA will response. And then there will be lower fares to HKG. |
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