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Everyone knows apes could do a better job.

I think his point was that even freakish ape-monkey hybrids could do the job.

And may well be.

I think the Toronto Mahal should have spent more on artwork, more airspace in the T1 baggage area and more tentacles to the octopus of roads and overpasses in and around it as those are extremely important to air travel today.

I think some of you are being too harsh on AC and GTA. On Tuesday night I was traveling from YOW-YYZ-GRU-GIG on AC and I made it albeit with a lot of delays.

First when my delayed AC flight arrived in YYZ, there was too much snow for the plane to get to the gate so we waited for a plow. This could have been avoided with better planning. But when we got to the gate, it was frozen and could not move over--- further it developed an electrical short which means the fire trucks were called in. An hour later we are moved to another gate, also frozen and would not move over to the door of our 319. Eventually GTA got that fixed. 3 hr delay in total.

Then I went to ML in international side. YYZ-GRU was at first one time, then delay one, delay two, delay three but eventually left around 2am++ which means I missed my GRU-GIG connection and had to wait a couple of more hours for the 18:10 JJ flight. As you may know there are very few JJ flights between GRU and GIG.

I admire pilots and all crew willing to work in these very difficult conditions. The conditions out side for ground crew were miserable and they had to seek warmth after a bit of exposure. GTA should have and perhaps did call in all extra staff. I do not know but they should have.

T1 was more like a youth hostel with people sleeping everywhere.

I also think AC should have sent a notice and a gesture of good will to its passengers. When I experienced similar problems at YUL on flight to GVA in mid December, I was sent a 25% discount for a future flight.

I received nothing and had to buy terribly expensive food and drink at YYZ as ML promptly shut down at 11:30pm. Conceirges were invisible.

Not to mention the nonsense like road from T1 bottlenecking to one lane at exit, slowest elevators, high-speed moving sidewalk that has been inoperable more often than not (love those "preventive maintenance" yellow barriers - the unreliability of the equipment Prevents us from using it), and so on...

Some of you guys are being too harsh on GTAA and AC.

When flying into YYZ on AC late at night, they always mange to get you to a gate that requires the longest walk around so many hallways and bends, up the stairs/elevators then down, then up, etc. By the time you eventually reach the customs or baggage area, everyone had lots of walking and exercising. See, GTAA and AC have been collaborating to force people to exercise and become fit. They are trying very hard.

So was it Air Canada or the GTAA who demanded that this thread be buried?

Oddly enough I bought Amex Ultimate Travel/Medical insurance on Thursday. Recouped my ~$250 annual premium and then some on Saturday. :)

GTAA I reckon. All this fuss is interrupting their cocktail hour.

"Those damn peasants should be happy with what we give them!!

Three more olives for my martini please."

You should see YHZ, virtually no taxi after 10 pm and if you get lucky and get one, they charge you $66. There are line-ups with >50 people and one taxi arrives every 5 mins (and usually it is much worse for arrrivals after 1am). Awfully incompetent management.

I haven't read the thread... are we talking about the gate agents... the ones that have the temperament of a rhinoceros?

If you read any of the media reports, you would know that the Minister of Transport Lisa Raitt has called for a review, as have the leaders of the GTA municipal governments! Ironically, Roger Anderson nominates a rep to the GTAA Board of Directors, so the latter is an explicit vote of non-confidence!