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ProudEdmontonian Jan 11, 2014 10:12 am

I wonder if the World Class Hub and its 'partner' will have things cleared up by next weekend when I go YEG-YUL-YTZ?:rolleyes:

The latter leg will hopefully be my first time on Porter BTW.:cool:

Stranger Jan 11, 2014 10:15 am

Can we ask for our $6 back?

:D

sskl1998 Jan 11, 2014 10:18 am


Originally Posted by xLuther (Post 22132369)
Well the airport is good match for the Mayor and City council

I had a dream last night that Mississauga has amalgamated Toronto and Hazel decided to stay on as the new mayor of the amalgamated Greater Mississauga.

Stranger Jan 11, 2014 10:19 am

aircanada.com:


As the Toronto Pearson Airport counter check-in system used by airlines is currently experiencing technical problems, customers are encouraged to check-in online before leaving for that airport.
Looks like they are trying to be proactive with the YYZ mess...

karachi Jan 11, 2014 10:25 am


Originally Posted by KenHamer (Post 22131939)
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Best. Hub. Ever.

this happened to me in Vienna a couple of years ago. total computer failure. it happens ..

Transpacificflyer Jan 11, 2014 10:37 am


Originally Posted by karachi (Post 22133098)
this happened to me in Vienna a couple of years ago. total computer failure. it happens ..

Yes it happens. However, Vienna isn't a major hub like Toronto and handles approx. 22million pax per yr. Toronto handles 35million. As such, it would be expected that Toronto would have backup systems and a redundancy to support the volume of pax and the importance of Toronto as the primary national hub.. Obviously, YYZ does not have a reliable backup system. Just another failure to add to the long list of deficiencies. Why Canadians are willing to tolerate such deficiencies and poor planning is beyond me. All we get are excuses and never an action plan to deal with the problems.

Tedgrrrr Jan 11, 2014 11:19 am

Does anyone know how things are going at the other terminal? I recall at YUL back in 2007 (I think, when was the really big power failure), I was flying to YYC on WS, and WS had everything under control and the lineups were moving well. Meanwhile, AC was struggling had seemed far more chaotic!!

Stranger Jan 11, 2014 11:20 am


Originally Posted by karachi (Post 22133098)
this happened to me in Vienna a couple of years ago. total computer failure. it happens ..

Still, it should not. When was the last time your bank was shut down because of a computer failure? Wasn't it TD that had a major fire in their computer centre some years back, yet continued business as usual?

WR Cage Jan 11, 2014 11:22 am


Originally Posted by karachi (Post 22133098)
this happened to me in Vienna a couple of years ago. total computer failure. it happens ..

Except I doubt Vienna went all "we can build a better mouse trap" and installed proprietary software that no other airport uses. The problem at YYZ is with Common Use Terminal Equipment software that runs interface and GUI into the airlines checkin systems. Hell if GTAA had PuTTY on the kiosks as a backup they could get everything running in a flash. Also looks like GTAA pushed a software update last night and brought the system down. They should have redeployed a software roll back but knowing IT teams, they probably have to do the roll back manually.

Vasco Jan 11, 2014 11:28 am


Originally Posted by HometoYYZ (Post 22132299)
Oh.... and apparently they're taking diversions due to ground stops at Ottawa and Montreal. Just six so far, but wow.

No ground stop at YOW. Some weather delays, yes, but airport operations never stopped.

djjaguar64 Jan 11, 2014 11:32 am


Originally Posted by karachi (Post 22133098)
this happened to me in Vienna a couple of years ago. total computer failure. it happens ..

Yes isn't it nice that you are not flying today to connect in DXB or FRA to your favourite destination and have no hotel bookings that you will need to cancel.

BMGfan Jan 11, 2014 11:34 am


Originally Posted by chebert999 (Post 22132801)
AC629 YYT - YUL diverted to BUF
AC661 YHZ - YUL diverted to BUF

There was also flight bounded for YUL diverted to Buffalo

So how many people are gonna have their passports on a domestic flight? :p

Either they're going to have one hell of a time getting off the plane....or they're still sitting there :(

fin 645 Jan 11, 2014 11:45 am

According to Flightaware:

http://flightaware.com/live/airport/CYYZ

Toronto Pearson Int'l (CYYZ) is currently experiencing:
•arrival delays for airborne aircraft an average of 35 minutes
•all inbound flights being held at their origin until saturday at 03:00p EST

YYZC2 Jan 11, 2014 12:00 pm

The majority of the workstations at YYZ are so-called "common use" terminals. That is, you log on via the GTAA's gateway to access your company's software.

The GTAA gateway is fubar'd, so even if your company's software and network is OK, most workstations can't get to it.

There are some AC-owned terminals that are hardwired into the airline network so they are operational, but they are few and far between and almost totally absent on the front line.

B407 Jan 11, 2014 12:11 pm


Originally Posted by Stranger (Post 22133418)
Still, it should not. When was the last time your bank was shut down because of a computer failure? Wasn't it TD that had a major fire in their computer centre some years back, yet continued business as usual?

RBC had a major computer glitch several years ago where people had their balances erroneously wiped out, and many could not receive payroll deposits. Took them several days or weeks to resolve it.

This is not the first time computer glitches have snarled airport operations. This is just bad timing for the GTAA with their cold weather fiasco, and their recent proclamation that they want to be a world class hub.


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