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"In this case, using the EU passport to apply for the Indian visa may be a better option so as to avoid ESTA,"
Correct!^ "I don't blame him for trying to extract as much out of the government when it is so difficult to get Canadian citizenship" Not as difficult as other countries. You can pretty much "buy" your way in still. "and the government does not treat us very well." Things could be A LOT better. Ever check the pricing and the insanity to get a new CAD passport overseas? Sickening.:td:
Originally Posted by AA_EXP09
(Post 21830845)
I don't blame him for trying to extract as much out of the government when it is so difficult to get Canadian citizenship and the government does not treat us very well.
(i.e. why should someone have to pay thousands to go through the process to get PR, then pass a citizenship test which is irrelevant to many Canadians?) (i.e. eliminating the option to have 48 pages in passport, and worst is pricing the new passport ABOVE the cost to make it, if compared to other nations. Evidence includes the $40 extra charge for 10 years despite this having ZERO additional cost.) |
LOL, so much crap in this thread.
1. Yes, you can be issued two Canadian passports. But "because I have to wait for an Indian visa while I need to travel to the US" doesn't even come remotely close to the standard required. 2. Yes, travel in the middle east can be a reason, if you are in and out of say both Israel and Iran a lot. But it is very overblown for the vast majority of people. I have a passport with two Saudi visas and multiple entry exit stamps from Riyadh there as well as half a dozen entry/exits from Ben Gurion in Tel Aviv as well as stamps from Qatar, Bahrain, Dubai, etc. Number of problems I have had: 0 3. Yes, the Indian bureaucracy is slow but they'll quote you longer times than it will actually take in my experience with the office in Ottawa. And Indian visas are far from the most painful and longest visa experience, as others have pointed out try a Saudi one for example. 4. Welcome to the world of international travel. Juggling your travel while waiting for a visa for a certain country is part of the deal. |
Originally Posted by AA_EXP09
(Post 21830845)
(i.e. why should someone have to pay thousands to go through the process to get PR, then pass a citizenship test which is irrelevant to many Canadians?)
I don't think it is unreasonable for a country to expect people applying to be citizens to have an understanding of the key things that underpin us as a nation. If you aren't willing to take the time to learn about the country, why should we give you a passport of convenience? |
Originally Posted by The Lev
(Post 21833282)
Why should the citizense of Canada be expected to absorb the cost of your or someone else's decision to enjoy the benefits offered by this country?
I don't think it is unreasonable for a country to expect people applying to be citizens to have an understanding of the key things that underpin us as a nation. If you aren't willing to take the time to learn about the country, why should we give you a passport of convenience? If Canada stopped allowing dual citizenship that would save the government quite a bit of money and headaches. |
Originally Posted by winnipegrev
(Post 21834795)
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If Canada stopped allowing dual citizenship that would save the government quite a bit of money and headaches. Further, this would deprive existing Canadian citizens of their citizenship, just because their 'home' is not Canada, though they have earned the right to call Canada their home (which IMO should be, and is, illegal, so long as their citizenship was not gained through fraud, which mine, and the majority, was not.) |
Originally Posted by The Lev
(Post 21833282)
Why should the citizense of Canada be expected to absorb the cost of your or someone else's decision to enjoy the benefits offered by this country?
I don't think it is unreasonable for a country to expect people applying to be citizens to have an understanding of the key things that underpin us as a nation. If you aren't willing to take the time to learn about the country, why should we give you a passport of convenience? English, Maths, Physics, Chemistry, Biology, I was willing (and did) do well, both in secondary and post secondary (and these concepts do not change regardless of where you are.) History, I largely learned EU history. (I did other homework during Canadian history parts of the curriculum-it is required to be TAUGHT to me, but I am not expected to necessarily learn.) Further, immigrants' children would integrate better if they receive a fully Canadian education? That was one of the most important reasons to come HERE instead of the US, actually (largely for university, where education of history is not required nor needed in the majority of Canadian workplaces.) (and your point is invalid where PRs get the SAME education rights as citizens, and can leave at any time.) Passport of convenience? Again, I could have gone to the USA for that (and now that it is cheaper...) |
Originally Posted by altitude75k
(Post 21831756)
"In this case, using the EU passport to apply for the Indian visa may be a better option so as to avoid ESTA,"
Correct!^ "I don't blame him for trying to extract as much out of the government when it is so difficult to get Canadian citizenship" Not as difficult as other countries. You can pretty much "buy" your way in still. "and the government does not treat us very well." Things could be A LOT better. Ever check the pricing and the insanity to get a new CAD passport overseas? Sickening.:td: So sickening that I could use my other passport, get a US visa (which I would likely be approved for, given I have no criminal record and good finances.) and it would be like a Canadian passport (plus the fact that I can travel to Canada with just my certificate of citizenship, according to TIMATIC.) |
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