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toothy Jul 10, 2023 5:24 am


Originally Posted by billinghamn (Post 35397626)
Isn't it time for BA to start again with a clean slate? Build the airline of the future with well architected IT systems, rather than taking an organic sticking plaster approach? I've seen the 'start over' approach work in the finance industry.

Appreciate there are lots of complex interfaces into external systems that BA has no control over, but it seems to me that they can't have control over the basic internal and customer-facing systems.

It's these systems that BA's reputation is partly based on.

This is something that many organisations are doing.... but it isn't a case of you can just build something new and switch from old to new in a single step. It is the combination of the interface complexity and the unpicking of all the sticky tape solutions stuck on top of the other sticky tape solutions that people put in to "save money". In addition ideally put in better processes rather than leaving all of the legacy processes that are in place today.

So a real opportunity - but probably would cost BA about a billion to do it properly.


T

billinghamn Jul 10, 2023 6:18 am


Originally Posted by toothy (Post 35400353)
This is something that many organisations are doing.... but it isn't a case of you can just build something new and switch from old to new in a single step. It is the combination of the interface complexity and the unpicking of all the sticky tape solutions stuck on top of the other sticky tape solutions that people put in to "save money". In addition ideally put in better processes rather than leaving all of the legacy processes that are in place today.

So a real opportunity - but probably would cost BA about a billion to do it properly.

T

I agree with your thinking. But too many organisations continue to take a short-term, sticky-plaster approach. Eventually you run out of road with that approach. BA has to bite the bullet at some point.

I guess if you compare investing in IT systems vs investing in new aircraft or refurb of seating, IT may not get a fair look in.

DYKWIA Jul 10, 2023 6:30 am

You could also end up spending a billion, and be left with something no better than what's there now.

I'd wager most of the current back end systems are functional and stable, and it's the new "bells and whistles" functionality that's causing the issues.

ratechaser Jul 10, 2023 6:30 am


Originally Posted by toothy (Post 35400353)
This is something that many organisations are doing.... but it isn't a case of you can just build something new and switch from old to new in a single step. It is the combination of the interface complexity and the unpicking of all the sticky tape solutions stuck on top of the other sticky tape solutions that people put in to "save money". In addition ideally put in better processes rather than leaving all of the legacy processes that are in place today.

So a real opportunity - but probably would cost BA about a billion to do it properly.


T

and don't forget all the necessary data migrations that go alongside... They're always a nightmare for implementing new systems...

capin Jul 10, 2023 9:42 am


Originally Posted by zen100 (Post 35396558)
Are they therefore allowed to go into lounges on staff travel (which normally doesn't come with lounge benefits).


Originally Posted by goldwannabe (Post 35397654)
I wrote this yesterday morning not expecting this many responses, but I guess it's a sensitive subject!

I'm not seriously considering moving over to BA, but was just curious how it functions. I have yearned for more travel at work - ironically I did a few business trips to HK/Toyko/Delhi over 10 years ago when I was more junior than I am now and loved it. But I have two kids now, so I guess that boat has mostly sailed.

In my ten years in BA - business travel I did -

Economy to Prague
Many many trips to Munich to Amadeus
CW out and First back to LAX
First both ways to Tokyo

I've done much, much more business travel in my new role outside Ba which is when I started collecting points and using Flyertalk.

JAXBA Jul 11, 2023 2:55 pm


Originally Posted by capin (Post 35401012)
In my ten years in BA - business travel I did…

That's a good way of putting it. I wasn't in Im, but the JAX call centre, and in my 9 years I did

2006: JAX-MIA-LHR/-LGW-ATL-JAX, shorthaul AA/DL economy, longhaul Club World - a 'fam' trip as a kind of leader of a handful of agents who hadn't flown BA yet
2007: JAX-JFK-LHR-JFK-JAX, shorthaul B6 economy, longhaul Club World - a trip to tour T5 before it opened, a prize I won
2009: JAX-LGA-JAX, DL economy
2009: JAX-JFK-JAX, B6 economy
Then nothing until 2013 when JAX closure was announced, and I had 3 trips to the UK for various interviews in an attempt to stay on. Mostly economy shorthaul (a couple of AA F), and Club longhaul (one BA F).

No business travel since I left BA, except one trip to DCA…

JAXBA Jul 11, 2023 5:43 pm


Originally Posted by our_kid (Post 35397650)
The CallBA pictures are interesting. What kind of call centre these days has fixed phones on the desk?


Originally Posted by SW7London (Post 35397685)
Its likely fully integrated into whatever contact centre software and softphone they are using, some people including agents, prefer a "traditional" physical phone, particularly if they have lots of windows/apps open.

Exactly my preference too. Softphone software can be memory intensive; it's useful to have a phone that still works if the PC ever freezes…

I do like that they have double monitors; only got 1 small screen in my time.

gms Jul 12, 2023 1:53 am

I've interviewed for a couple of Head Office roles with BA or IAG over the years. As has been mentioned previously the pay is generally below market average. I guess BA thinks the brand and travel perks will attract and compensate people somewhat. BA generally will not disclose the salary range until during/after the interview process (which seems a crazy policy - it's just wasting their time and the candidate's time if there is a complete mismatch). Based on my last experience (~8 years ago). I would say their salary was maybe ~75% of the market average for the London area (possibly less).

zen100 Jul 13, 2023 8:06 am


Originally Posted by Confus (Post 35399013)
Indeed, and that’s exactly why those at the very top are given cards. It’s limited to BA-owned lounges only though, which are an ever-decreasing species outside of London.

Side tracking a bit, but isn't that species almost extinct? Where are BA-owned lounges outside London? EDI has one. GLA?

KARFA Jul 13, 2023 8:37 am

Within Europe - EDI, GLA, ABZ, LIN, FCO, and GVA.

pb3 Jul 16, 2023 8:49 am


Originally Posted by 13901 (Post 35395843)
Things might be changing, though, as the CIO is now a BA employee, reporting to Sean Doyle, and the IAG Tech folks report into him. This is a big difference from before, when the CIO reported to IAG and not to the airline.

Out of interest who is the CIO of the IAG group these days?

Ancient Observer Jul 16, 2023 10:50 am

The title of the Thread is..........
"Does anyone work in Technology at BA?"

I thought they had asked "Does anything work in IT in BA?"

OnslowSW7 Jul 16, 2023 12:55 pm


Originally Posted by pb3 (Post 35417757)
Out of interest who is the CIO of the IAG group these days?

Dirk John is the relatively recent Chief Digital and Transformation Office at BA. Came from LATAM via McKinsey. From what I understand he’s kicked off several fundamental IT transformation programmes, but they aren’t going well…

flybymonkey Jul 16, 2023 2:19 pm


Originally Posted by goldwannabe (Post 35395361)
Morning,

I've been working in banking/hedge fund technology for around 15 years. The pay is good, but I'm generally just sat at my desk every single day with very little opportunity for travel unfortunately.

I was just curious, what is it like to work in Technology at BA? What are the perks? Do you get to do a lot of business travel?A friend of mine who works for BA in another department says she gets free travel and an automatic gold card.

What area do you specialise in? I have recently worked with BA/IAG tech folk and would say if you want to transfer then a senior PM/PMO position would probably be your best bet but no guarantee of travel.


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