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Old May 7, 2021, 11:55 pm
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Does the gov.uk advice "you should not travel" to amber list countries mean that its up to the me to travel or not?
My wife and i are fully vaccinated and are able to quarantine on our return although i will test to release after day 5.
I can't find an answer on the government website
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Old May 8, 2021, 12:02 am
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Originally Posted by dandare
Does the gov.uk advice "you should not travel" to amber list countries mean that its up to the me to travel or not?
My wife and i are fully vaccinated and are able to quarantine on our return although i will test to release after day 5.
I can't find an answer on the government website
Many thanks
That's how I take it - no valid reason needs to be declared, but you should check travel insurance based on F&C Office advice
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Old May 8, 2021, 1:19 am
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According to most things I read:

All remaining countries are placed on either an "amber" or "red" list which mean you must not travel to them for leisure purposes, and on return you will be subject to certain quarantine measures.

I am looking to go to Bermuda at the end of June and as they are on the Amber list I can only hope they move to Green in three weeks time or else I believe i am not allowed to go. Whilst I agree with a cautious approach, places like Malta and many others seem pretty low risk and should be Green IMHO
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Old May 8, 2021, 1:40 am
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My understanding is the legal restriction will be lifted, but amber and red countries will be noted as "all but essential travel" on the FCO travel information.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/g...ational-travel

The ‘Stay in the UK’ regulation will lift on 17 May, meaning leisure travel from England will no longer be illegal.
Travel to an amber country is the same as last year - mostly represents a potential implication for your travel insurance due the FCO advice, rather than a legal prohibition to travel
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Old May 8, 2021, 2:27 am
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Originally Posted by moral_low_ground
According to most things I read:

All remaining countries are placed on either an "amber" or "red" list which mean you must not travel to them for leisure purposes, and on return you will be subject to certain quarantine measures.

I am looking to go to Bermuda at the end of June and as they are on the Amber list I can only hope they move to Green in three weeks time or else I believe i am not allowed to go. Whilst I agree with a cautious approach, places like Malta and many others seem pretty low risk and should be Green IMHO
Post 17th May when the ordinance that foreign travel is "not allowed, apart from in exceptional circumstances" is to be lifted, FCDO advice against travel to a particular location is just that, 'advice'.

You can make a personal, independent and fully legal decision to travel to any location wherein the FCDO advises against "all but essential travel", but you should of course be cognisant of any FCDO warnings and the reasons for such, also be aware that a standard travel insurance policy will not cover you for any loss or claim arising from your travel to any locale to which the FCDO has advised against travelling. Note that there are specialist insurance providers who may be able to provide travel cover for 'riskier' destinations at a higher cost, and a few of the better-known consumer-market insurers (e.g. Staysure) will offer a limited extension of cover for 'non-advised' destinations in Europe only.

From 17th May the things stopping you from travelling to Bermuda are:-
  • Potential issues with your eligibility to enter Bermuda under their rules in place
  • Your attitude to risk, both from Covid itself, and the financial consequences of becoming ill or suffering an uninsured loss or event
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Old May 8, 2021, 3:49 am
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It's worth noting that there are countries on the amber list where the advice against all but essential travel has been lifted. An example is Denmark.
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Old May 8, 2021, 5:50 am
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Originally Posted by moral_low_ground
Whilst I agree with a cautious approach, places like Malta and many others seem pretty low risk and should be Green IMHO
I wouldn't characterize the approach as "cautious." I would say it is either very dark British humor or paranoid.

Why are there no provisions that exempt those which are fully vaccinated? Why is Singapore on the list but countries in a similar situation like Taiwan are amber? Why make a list at all if 75% of the places on it either do not accept leisure travellers from the UK or are of extremely limited use to leisure travellers (e.g., South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands)?
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Old May 8, 2021, 8:06 am
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Does anyone know when the next update to the list is?
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Old May 8, 2021, 8:09 am
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Old May 8, 2021, 8:25 am
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Originally Posted by dandare
My wife and i are fully vaccinated
meaningless traveling to the UK.
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Old May 8, 2021, 8:31 am
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The vaccines are estimated to only have an 80% protection efficacy and if you are in the unlucky 20% you will probably(hopefully) have mild or no symptoms. However if you are infected with mild or no symptoms you may still spread it to others both vaccinated and unvaccinated. So if people travel without these limitations and they bring back a strain which is more virulent or the vaccines don't have as good a protection rate, we could go back to step 1 again and lock down for months. I think we've all had enough of lockdowns and if it means the places I can visit are not where I want to go then that is life in the 2020s.

The green countries are deemed as very low risk of coming into contact with infection hence the limited checking and no quarantine. For amber countries the risk maybe that although the country has a low infection rate currently but has opened its borders to people from high risk countries who could then infect other tourists (Dubai comes to mind). Although the green list includes countries many of us would never consider visiting it doesn't mean those should not be on the list. We are pretty luck to have any countries to travel to when you hear Australia are keeping international travel limited until possibly the end of 2022.
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Old May 8, 2021, 9:08 am
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Originally Posted by 8mh
Why make a list at all if 75% of the places on it either do not accept leisure travellers from the UK or are of extremely limited use to leisure travellers (e.g., South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands)?
Because it's not just about leisure travellers.
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Old May 8, 2021, 2:26 pm
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Originally Posted by kriscii
The vaccines are estimated to only have an 80% protection efficacy and if you are in the unlucky 20% you will probably(hopefully) have mild or no symptoms. However if you are infected with mild or no symptoms you may still spread it to others both vaccinated and unvaccinated. So if people travel without these limitations and they bring back a strain which is more virulent or the vaccines don't have as good a protection rate, we could go back to step 1 again and lock down for months. I think we've all had enough of lockdowns and if it means the places I can visit are not where I want to go then that is life in the 2020s.

The green countries are deemed as very low risk of coming into contact with infection hence the limited checking and no quarantine. For amber countries the risk maybe that although the country has a low infection rate currently but has opened its borders to people from high risk countries who could then infect other tourists (Dubai comes to mind). Although the green list includes countries many of us would never consider visiting it doesn't mean those should not be on the list. We are pretty luck to have any countries to travel to when you hear Australia are keeping international travel limited until possibly the end of 2022.
That is patently false, please don’t spread misinformation.
From a study published Thursday(this is Pfizer/BioNTech):

After adjustment for age, sex, and calendar week, the efficacy of complete BNT162b2 vaccination was 95∙3% against SARS-CoV-2 infection overall; 91∙5% against asymptomatic infection, 97∙0% against symptomatic COVID-19, 97∙2% against hospitalization, 97∙5% against severe or critical hospitalization, and 96∙7% against death from the disease.”
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