Jul 30, 2019, 9:52 am
Last edit by: davie355
At least 3 FlyerTalkers were onboard and have posted eyewitness reports. Excerpts and direct links follow
All reports implicate a musical artist/rapper named Busta Rhymes.
All reports implicate a musical artist/rapper named Busta Rhymes.
- Artist boards and his handler begins packing away his bags in the overheads. To note … the artist brought 4 carryon bags … which meant regardless of the situation that he would have struggled to easily find space (especially as the cabin was full). It was apparent that the handler was having trouble finding space and the artist began getting irate … asking “whose stuff is this” … my wife replied, “mine” … artist responds “move your stuff”.
- I could tell immediately that this would only end in an argument so I suggested to my wife that she just move her bags to avoid confrontation … my wife quite rightfully responded “why should I, we are supposed to share this bin” … this is when the artist flew off the handle: “move your stuff, now” … he was towering over my wife’s seat and she was terrified … I stood up and asked him to “not be so rude to my wife” and to “leave it” to which he responded with “then let’s go, homeboy … essentially offering me to fight him!!!!
A woman started to cry and the situation escalated very quickly. I then jumped in as I can't tolerate any case of abusive behaviour. He threatened me personally because I jumped in. The CSD got involved. The Captain decided to not offload him (don't ask me why because we really don't know, we were all shocked at his judgment call). Instead, the crew asked if any of us would feel safer by taking the next flight.
29 July 19: BA112 [JFK-LHR] incident in F cabin
Jul 31, 2019, 12:42 pm
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The Mirror stated "They (police) boarded the plane once it had landed at approximately 6:52am on Tuesday 30 July and spoke to the parties involved. There were no reported injuries, and no offences disclosed. The passengers concerned then proceeded with their journeys."
BA650 (LHR-JMK) leaves at....6:50.
BA650 (LHR-JMK) leaves at....6:50.
Jul 31, 2019, 12:42 pm
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Although a connection missed due to a 20-minute delay on the inbound was too tight already, surely ?
Jul 31, 2019, 12:42 pm
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Check out his Wikipedia page for a list of his arrests for similar incidents.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Busta_Rhymes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Busta_Rhymes
Jul 31, 2019, 12:45 pm
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Well that’s odd. I am viewing the FR24 website on my iPad. Oriented in portrait view, it says the flight landed at 05:44 but when I adjust my device to landscape, it says 06:44.
Jul 31, 2019, 12:46 pm
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Edit: my point being that if the incident and the way it was handled by BA meant that passengers would rather downgrade rather than remain in the First cabin then surely some sort of compensation is due.
Last edited by alpenlupe; Jul 31, 2019 at 12:53 pm
Jul 31, 2019, 12:48 pm
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Well oddly enough, that’s one area where BA does normally tend to excel : over 15,000 apologies (however welcome or useful they may - or may not - be to the recipient !) have been offered so far this year, or an average of 71 per day
https://www.sorryfortheinconvenience...britishairways
I’m not in your shoes, was not on the flight, and obviously was not involved in the relevant phone conversation, so what follows is no more than an assumption on my part.
I would speculate that your surprise stems from the fact no senior manager has had the gumption to address the issue with you directly, with a view to reaching an understanding/agreement which leaves you feeling reassured that the disruption, distress, and inconvenience caused have all been appropriately recognised by the airline. Instead, the onus is simply thrown back to you, as the aggrieved party, to do all the work by now reiterating your concerns to the Legal Department.
Perhaps this ‘response’ by BA is symptomatic of the policy adopted by executive management to a wide range of difficult situations : let the lawyers deal with it ............whether that be industrial relations with our employees (see you in the High Court and then Court of Appeal !), or issues raised by those who effectively pay our salaries.
https://www.sorryfortheinconvenience...britishairways
I’m not in your shoes, was not on the flight, and obviously was not involved in the relevant phone conversation, so what follows is no more than an assumption on my part.
I would speculate that your surprise stems from the fact no senior manager has had the gumption to address the issue with you directly, with a view to reaching an understanding/agreement which leaves you feeling reassured that the disruption, distress, and inconvenience caused have all been appropriately recognised by the airline. Instead, the onus is simply thrown back to you, as the aggrieved party, to do all the work by now reiterating your concerns to the Legal Department.
Perhaps this ‘response’ by BA is symptomatic of the policy adopted by executive management to a wide range of difficult situations : let the lawyers deal with it ............whether that be industrial relations with our employees (see you in the High Court and then Court of Appeal !), or issues raised by those who effectively pay our salaries.
Jul 31, 2019, 12:48 pm
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so a 20 min delay wouldn’t have cause a misconnect.. but police, etc I guess people get off well after 7am so they would misconnect. Though I would book this if I’m on my own....
Jul 31, 2019, 12:50 pm
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Jul 31, 2019, 12:51 pm
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Would connecting passengers have been automatically offloaded or missed a conformation check?
Jul 31, 2019, 12:52 pm
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I used my iPhone app... it says 6:50 lol .. so I guess the plane landed... what time? well depends which device we view it. But around 6:44-6:50 ish...
Jul 31, 2019, 12:52 pm
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2003 - assault
2006 - assault
2007 - assault
2007 - DUI
Nothing recent.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Busta_Rhymes
Jul 31, 2019, 1:01 pm
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BA.com shows the timings here, and I'll add the screenshots since they are about to vanish. In short, this was a tight, but legal connection, which is why it probably appealed to the passenger's travel booker.
Jul 31, 2019, 1:02 pm
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Yes, I have.
2003 - assault
2006 - assault
2007 - assault
2007 - DUI
Nothing recent.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Busta_Rhymes
2003 - assault
2006 - assault
2007 - assault
2007 - DUI
Nothing recent.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Busta_Rhymes
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...n-drink-59339/
This guy has an anger management issue.
Jul 31, 2019, 1:05 pm
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Won't post the link, but the clip is still there - lots of explicit language, so safer to use earphones/headphones.
Jul 31, 2019, 1:05 pm
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Here's an idea.
Assuming the captain had been heavily 'advised' to keep this lot on board. Maybe they should have said to this 'artist' that should he wish to stay on this specific flight, he will need to fly in economy (as far away as possible from the poor First passengers). If not, he can rebook or a later light in First.
Assuming the captain had been heavily 'advised' to keep this lot on board. Maybe they should have said to this 'artist' that should he wish to stay on this specific flight, he will need to fly in economy (as far away as possible from the poor First passengers). If not, he can rebook or a later light in First.