Differences between Business and First class that you value
Jun 12, 2019, 3:27 am
#61
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Thank you! I guess I did not believe the advertising slogan translated into exactly what the english words meant 
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Clever! You have expanded the program to "Dine on Conditional Event" ^.
That is exceptionally considerate of you.
Although I can go for > 12 hrs without eating when I'm in a good "work flow" at home comfortably sustained by water or my favorite toasted rice green tea made as iced tea . https://www.rishi-tea.com/product/583/kagoshima-japan?gclid=Cj0KCQjwxYLoBRCxARIsAEf16-tFmH6J5H1PbXKAYePCmpjNsWOmvo-RZB3GZVVBGowyoGCntb6PzBsaAtZHEALw_wcB
green tea
(Genmaicha),
for some reason when I fly, sitting there doing nothing makes me hungry. On a work trip in March on the return flight with United - coach from Hong Kong to San Francisco - the food after breakfast was inedible, whereas the outbound was OK. I survived for 14 hours on 2 new-to-me delicious fruits I discovered in the Hong Kong Ocean City mall "City Super" supermarket: citrus, the most amazing white japanese strawberries
white japanese strawberries
($30ish for 9), and a food bar in my purse, yet my tummy was still growling.
I do like your "Dine on Conditional Event" approach, but I would definitely request the save
edit: my links look fine in edit mode but messed up above. Sorry about that...
.I'll usually tell the crew that I'm going to go to bed straight away or nearly straight away, and ask whether it's OK to have some dinner in the middle of the night if I'm awake and I feel like something then. I will usually ask them not to save anything specially for me, because I don't know whether or not I will want a 3 am dinner and I wouldn't want to deprive someone else of something that they are awake for and do want - but I've not yet had a problem with this as there's always been something decent to eat if I've woken up early and decided to eat then.
Although I can go for > 12 hrs without eating when I'm in a good "work flow" at home comfortably sustained by water or my favorite toasted rice green tea made as iced tea . https://www.rishi-tea.com/product/583/kagoshima-japan?gclid=Cj0KCQjwxYLoBRCxARIsAEf16-tFmH6J5H1PbXKAYePCmpjNsWOmvo-RZB3GZVVBGowyoGCntb6PzBsaAtZHEALw_wcB
green tea
(Genmaicha),
for some reason when I fly, sitting there doing nothing makes me hungry. On a work trip in March on the return flight with United - coach from Hong Kong to San Francisco - the food after breakfast was inedible, whereas the outbound was OK. I survived for 14 hours on 2 new-to-me delicious fruits I discovered in the Hong Kong Ocean City mall "City Super" supermarket: citrus, the most amazing white japanese strawberries
white japanese strawberries
($30ish for 9), and a food bar in my purse, yet my tummy was still growling.
I do like your "Dine on Conditional Event" approach, but I would definitely request the save
edit: my links look fine in edit mode but messed up above. Sorry about that...
Last edited by MareLuce; Jun 12, 2019 at 3:35 am
Jun 12, 2019, 3:43 am
#62
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I haven't read the whole thread but as I hold top tier status with another airline (ie. not BA) the free seat selection included with First is a big attraction for me. I would much rather put the £800 I would spend on seat selection fees for my family towards bigger seats, a better lounge and a smaller cabin. All these things combined with the additional Avios earned for flying First helps to offset the cost but of course YMMV.
Jun 12, 2019, 4:05 am
#63
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I haven't read the whole thread but as I hold top tier status with another airline (ie. not BA) the free seat selection included with First is a big attraction for me. I would much rather put the £800 I would spend on seat selection fees for my family towards bigger seats, a better lounge and a smaller cabin.
Assuming the reservation costs like GBP 60 on average, that's a drop in the bucket compared to the usual price premium of F.
Jun 12, 2019, 5:17 am
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I value having anything I want from the menu at any time I want it. I value drinking anything off the menu, served at the correct temperature, and without it running out. This is why I fly QR J wherever possible.
Jun 12, 2019, 5:26 am
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Jun 12, 2019, 5:29 am
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Jun 12, 2019, 6:30 am
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Well that flies in the face of the £98 each way that I recently paid for 4 people on a CW flight. That's close to £800. If you book far enough in advance I've often found that F can come close to CW in terms of pricing. Take for example, 4 May next year to Atlanta - it's £1609 in CW or £1809 in F. As a seat reservation would cost me £100 in CW and F is only £200 more I know which seems better value to me!
Jun 12, 2019, 8:04 am
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I think on a 747 this depends on UD or non-UD J. UD-J (particularly in the window seats) is pretty much as good to sleep in as F (in some ways better). As that's pretty much all I do TATL US->UK, and as I get CCR access anyway, I don't see a lot of advantages of F. But with no UD, or where you are actually awake and eating, F is a bit better. Not hugely, but a bit.
One advantage of F not described so far: when your flight gets cancelled / connections get missed, I'm pretty sure for any given CIV/status, F pax will be rerouted with higher priority than J pax.
One advantage of F not described so far: when your flight gets cancelled / connections get missed, I'm pretty sure for any given CIV/status, F pax will be rerouted with higher priority than J pax.
I wish they did that consistently. One of the things I value, that hasn't been mentioned so far, is getting off the plane before everyone else. It often makes a huge difference to the amount of time you spend at immigration. BA on the other hand just let everyone out at once, instead of giving F pax a head start.
Jun 12, 2019, 8:12 am
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Well that flies in the face of the £98 each way that I recently paid for 4 people on a CW flight. That's close to £800. If you book far enough in advance I've often found that F can come close to CW in terms of pricing. Take for example, 4 May next year to Atlanta - it's £1609 in CW or £1809 in F. As a seat reservation would cost me £100 in CW and F is only £200 more I know which seems better value to me!
Jun 12, 2019, 8:21 am
#71
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I wish they did that consistently. One of the things I value, that hasn't been mentioned so far, is getting off the plane before everyone else. It often makes a huge difference to the amount of time you spend at immigration. BA on the other hand just let everyone out at once, instead of giving F pax a head start.
Jun 12, 2019, 8:42 am
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Jun 12, 2019, 10:54 am
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Well, given that the UpperDeck CW seats account for a significant minority (<2%) of all the BA CW seats flying on a given day, yes - I am excluding them. Whereas the significant majority of F seats flying on a given day (>90%) do have a decent sized surface.
Jun 12, 2019, 12:21 pm
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