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rapidex May 25, 2019 9:51 am


Originally Posted by BAeuro (Post 31137620)
I’ve always found Lisbon flights to have good loads. It does make me wonder why they haven’t added more frequencies.

Simple answer. No slots.

HIDDY May 25, 2019 9:53 am


Originally Posted by brunos (Post 31137634)
Don't forget that a very significant portion of BA longhaul business pax are transfer pax. And they travel in CE.
Europeans are a small proportion of BA FT contributors but a large proportion of their J pax.

Around 35% or more IIRC at LHR. Which just shows how popular an airline BA is despite the bad press!!!

BA6501 May 25, 2019 9:57 am


Originally Posted by PETER01 (Post 31137595)
I've seen the now retired 767's full in CE and which had a front cabin of 50 in that configuration and I can't recall if it went further back but I'm sure I've read that it did.

It went back to row 17 (or 18?) - full to the brim in CE many times on routes such as LCA!

jimlad48 May 25, 2019 10:41 am

Maybe its a sign of the lengths people will go to to ensure they definitely get a cup of tea with their afternoon tea scone? ;-)

Saltire74 May 25, 2019 10:50 am


Originally Posted by PETER01 (Post 31137595)
I've seen the now retired 767's full in CE and which had a front cabin of 50 in that configuration and I can't recall if it went further back but I'm sure I've read that it did.

I'm not sure of the ratio of staff to passengers was higher though compared to the A321/320/319 family. In any case quite a money maker for BA so I hear.

I remember in the days of the 757 it wasn’t rare to only have the very rear cabin for economy.

S

AndyFlyer May 25, 2019 11:13 am

36 Club Europe on a LCY-NCE E190 the other day (just before the start of the Cannes Film Festival). On ex-LCY, they don't top-up extra crew members for higher CE loads, so it was mostly the CSM who hardly paused for breath to give everyone a very good service!

T8191 May 25, 2019 11:47 am

Our recent MLA had about 10 rows (hard to count from Row 1) and undoubtedly the majority were an annual ‘big treat’. They just didn’t look like ‘regular’ CE pax, if I may put it that way.

Swanhunter May 25, 2019 12:29 pm


Originally Posted by BA6501 (Post 31137672)
It went back to row 17 (or 18?) - full to the brim in CE many times on routes such as LCA!

All the way to row 25 before the last refurbishment. That was quite something.

Travelling Inspector May 26, 2019 3:06 am

I think about 14 rows of CE out to IST last Monday, almost completely full. Maybe 10-11 rows coming back yesterday but with a lighter loading - theoretical Seating kept the 'adjacent' seats empty for Golds in the very front. By contrast, my flight to TIA (Tirane) in a couple of weeks has just gone up from two rows to three in CE with the addition of the third passenger...

navylad May 26, 2019 4:13 am


Originally Posted by DoctorCopper (Post 31137433)
Wow! A 2h40m flight and someone worked without a break for that long! I wonder how the rest of the world manages?

Doc Copper

plus the 45-60 minutes before hand for checks and embarkation and 30-45 minutes on landing g for disembarkation, checks and briefings. This is the real world, like many jobs it is intense work and the OP’s point is perfectly valid.

gw76 May 26, 2019 4:38 am

Apart from the default CE premium connectors, maybe the fares and redemptions are too cheap/easy to give a truly premium experience, 'rammed' 'packed' 'rushed' 'not enough crew' 'run out of...' doesnt sound appealing.

yrin May 26, 2019 5:16 am

Lis is getting busier and busier, 5 years ago I could get really cheap flights even on weekend dates, with decent flight times - not just BA (I find the flight times with BA to be awkward for my specific needs) but the low cost carriers and TAP as well. Since then, though, the amount of people travelling to Lisbon seems to have tripled, it is rare to get a truly low fare these days and all the flights I have taken, even random mid-week, mid-day ones are mostly full. Sure, mostly it is low cost flyers like myself, but when you are looking at less than £100 quid difference between basic economy and CE, I can understand the lure - 2 checked bags, priority, lounge access, food... Only way to get over this is to pretend Lisbon is a horrible destination, tell everyone how horrible the weather is and how crowded the town has become! Much better off flying somewhere nice, like Faro or anywhere south of Spain!





I want my cheap fares back. ;(

patersoj May 26, 2019 5:16 am


Originally Posted by T8191 (Post 31137907)
They just didn’t look like ‘regular’ CE pax, if I may put it that way.

You mean that they still held the hopes and dreams of what being in Business class would mean to their lives? :D

FlyerTalker39574 May 26, 2019 5:58 am


Originally Posted by yrin (Post 31139581)
Lis is getting busier and busier....

Perhaps CJ could offer flights from LCY, LIS may be more successful than ORY.

yrin May 26, 2019 8:58 am


Originally Posted by richardwft (Post 31139649)


Perhaps CJ could offer flights from LCY, LIS may be more successful than ORY.

LIS is pretty much at capacity as far as I understand it, for nearly a decade there's been talks of creating another airport to support it - but environmental impact and random political/economic nonsense has kept it from happening. LCY to LIS can be done with TAP, unsure how much of a market there is for it though (never flew from LCY myself on any routes).


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