Loose enforcement of carry ons
#16
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Even more important if using Row 1, given the amount of space used by CC equipment in the overheads there.
#17
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BA team members do their best to enforce / acknowledge seat/ baggage - especially their ‘ frequent flier customers. HBO is abused . People behave the way they do , sadly ( some will no doubt disagree) they get away with it .
If on board and you see such mis use - why not speak to CC?
BTW to the OP - if I was following that individual on board I would have (100%) said something to the crew.
Last edited by Telecasterman; May 8, 2019 at 3:23 pm
#18
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Yes it is ridiculous and it delays flights. I am tired of waiting in the aisle while others try to force enormous bags into the lockers. I just don’t understand why BA are not more proactive about this.
#19
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I was also not annoyed at the time but very amused that so many carry-ons would be tolerated. At this point too I assumed agents at check-in and at the gate had been okay with this so not sure my input would have been helpful.
#20
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Natural by-product of offering cheap people the chance to save a few quid by packing an entire checked back into their carry ons and cheap airline management the chance to squeeze an extra row or two of passengers and their carry ons in by slimming the seats, removing the bulkheads and closet. If we wanted Ryanair, we’d all fly it. Right?
I hope they don’t adopt American policies... fell foul of their stupid policies trying to bring a rolled art tube along side my bag into their 777 First class last month.
I hope they don’t adopt American policies... fell foul of their stupid policies trying to bring a rolled art tube along side my bag into their 777 First class last month.
#21
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In my experience BA do checks at the gate and take bags off people in line with the expected loads. It may not be quite as sophisticated as the modelling on AA (where gate agents seem to know the number of bags they need to take off people in the higher boarding numbers), but generally it works quite reasonable.
If the gate agents in this case let the pax through, maybe they didn't do their job properly, but also the flight may have not been full and they knew there would be space.
I find it quite extraordinary that some people on this thread feel the need to police other passengers or make sure that parts of the overhead storage stays free. This is for the airline to sort. And if FR & U2 are so much better at managing cabin bags - maybe people should fly them more.
If the gate agents in this case let the pax through, maybe they didn't do their job properly, but also the flight may have not been full and they knew there would be space.
I find it quite extraordinary that some people on this thread feel the need to police other passengers or make sure that parts of the overhead storage stays free. This is for the airline to sort. And if FR & U2 are so much better at managing cabin bags - maybe people should fly them more.
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IMHO, the fairest way is to have a set of rules are abide by them. There may have been space for all the bags on this flight, but another it would have caused a delay and that is disrespectful of other passengers. If you stick by the rules all of the time, people learn to stick by them, if you allow a little beyond the rules each time, pax will see how much they can get away with. I feel for the CC who have to play a game of Tetris on every flight, particularly given the generous baggage allowance for most tickets and the little difference between HBO and Baggage Included fares (compared to extortionate amounts seen with LCC in order to be able to advertise a falsely low fare.
#23
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And very unfair to those that abide to those rules: maybe they leave home something only because it would have been over the ruled amount... to then see someone else without the same scruple bringing half the closet on board.
#24
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I too am intrigued about this. BA891 SOF-LHR on Monday was a nightmare, with the flight delayed while the CC sorted the huge number of bags which couldn't be accommodated. One member of crew asked a passenger in row 23, a number of times, to move a bag from the bin to under the seat in front, but she repeatedly refused. I was secretly hoping the CC was just remove it and send it downstairs, but unfortunately they moved on. Prior to take off the whole isle was lined with bags while the crew rearranged the overheads like a Mensa puzzle.
#25
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This is incredibly annoying especially when people like me actually measure the size of my bags and will not take a bag if it is oversized. Then I see things like that happening and I wonder why I bothered.
#26
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This is BA's own fault... if you sell HBO tickets then you should enforce baggage limits. If you don't then people will get used to the idea that they don't need to check bags in and they can save a few bob along the way. When I see stuff like this I am astonished that revenue management aren't onto it.
#27
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Even i, who basically is always "if its not hurting you then why do you let it anger you" mentality, think this is ridiculous. I dont understand how they got past?
I have a stupid question.. do status/J+F passengers get bigger carry on allowance?
I have a stupid question.. do status/J+F passengers get bigger carry on allowance?
#28
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I've seen two wheelie bags fairly often, and even a woman with 6 smallish plastic bags*, but this really beats everything I've seen so far on ANY carrier, let alone just BA (and I often fly with carriers that allow two full-size cabin bags in J/F).
*I still struggle to understand why she brought in 6 smallish plastic bags. They would have been OK in a single normal sized bag!
You don't get any extra on BA but you do on quite a few carriers.
Last edited by LTN Phobia; May 9, 2019 at 1:05 am
#30
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Sounds like it could have been someone from Flyertalk. The "I shouldn't have to put my small bag under the seat if I didn't bring a big bag" seems a pretty common attitude around here.