Jan 4, 2019, 9:09 am
Last edit by: jfkeze
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
15 Oct £0.96/TP £154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb £1.90/TP £152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug £2.06/TP £329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul £2.99/TP £2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec £1.90/TP £1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr £2.29/TP £640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com
From North, Central and South America
10Jan £1.52/TP £668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr £0.90/TP £215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr £ 0.76/TP £ 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr £ 1.04/TP £ 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May £ 0.70/TP £ 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun £ 0.52/TP £ 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
04/01 £0.95/TP £479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 £2.07/TP £2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)
From Africa
04/01 £1.80/TP £721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2018 Archive
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
Mar 24, 2019, 2:26 pm
#1171
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: LON
Programs: BA GFL, OW Gold, CX/MP Diamond, SPG Plat
Posts: 258
Mar 24, 2019, 2:30 pm
#1172
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2014
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 12,262
Mar 25, 2019, 3:53 pm
#1174
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: BAEC GGL / Bonvoy Titanium Elite
Posts: 13
Hi all.
I'm new to this so I appreciate any help or pointing me in the right direction.
I have a trip coming up which I'd like to maximise the routing in order to squeeze the most amount of TP out of which could potentially renew my Gold for the year if I can get enough in this trip.
I need to fly the following:
NYC-LON
LON-NYC
The cheapest direct flight I found is $3,680 in (I). I played around with ITAMatrix and managed to add in Boston to both directions JFK-BOS-LHR-BOS-JFK for an extra $70. Could anyone point me in the direction of how, if possible, to maximise the routing for TP whilst keeping it below $4000?
I'm new to this so I appreciate any help or pointing me in the right direction.
I have a trip coming up which I'd like to maximise the routing in order to squeeze the most amount of TP out of which could potentially renew my Gold for the year if I can get enough in this trip.
I need to fly the following:
NYC-LON
LON-NYC
The cheapest direct flight I found is $3,680 in (I). I played around with ITAMatrix and managed to add in Boston to both directions JFK-BOS-LHR-BOS-JFK for an extra $70. Could anyone point me in the direction of how, if possible, to maximise the routing for TP whilst keeping it below $4000?
Last edited by pma.tang; Mar 27, 2019 at 5:11 pm
Mar 25, 2019, 5:37 pm
#1175
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Sussex, UK
Programs: BA:Gold Amex:Green :IC Platinum Elite Amb
Posts: 660
You need to make the trip from the west coast and probably fly via HEL or MAD etc to get any amount of tier points. NYC to LON is always likely to find you on direct 280TP flights. NYC-PHL-DUB-LON will get an extra 80 TP each way and you might find a fare which allows 2 transfers in USA but keeping the routing without layovers will be difficult and original routing credit is an art, not a science
If you want half a chance make your destination somewhere other than the NYC-LON airbridge the JBA run
If you want half a chance make your destination somewhere other than the NYC-LON airbridge the JBA run
Last edited by UKTony; Mar 25, 2019 at 5:38 pm Reason: LON not LOC
Mar 26, 2019, 2:35 am
#1176
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA GGL, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 910
Auh-cgk £551, cgk-auh £2032......
Hi All,
Thanks to those who've done the AUH-CGK run before I thought I'd look into this, ideally doing a B2B in CGK as I'd rather spend the time in AUH with friends than staying over. This would require booking a separate CGK-AUH trip (yes, I've researched the potential issues with B2B in CGK).
Looking at pricing however I find huge discrepancy between AUH-CGK and CGK-AUH fares - 4 times more to do the reverse. I then started looking in Expertflyer and find it difficult to figure out how UL pricing works! The £551 fare is of fare basis IU2MP8AEIB, but this isn't found on Expertflyer.
Doing an EF search on the reverse direction shows no I class and a figure of around £1718.
2 questions:
1) Why is there a disparity between published fares and EF data here?
2) Is it possible to book CGK-AUH fare close to the £551 fare for AUH-CGK?
Thanks.
Thanks to those who've done the AUH-CGK run before I thought I'd look into this, ideally doing a B2B in CGK as I'd rather spend the time in AUH with friends than staying over. This would require booking a separate CGK-AUH trip (yes, I've researched the potential issues with B2B in CGK).
Looking at pricing however I find huge discrepancy between AUH-CGK and CGK-AUH fares - 4 times more to do the reverse. I then started looking in Expertflyer and find it difficult to figure out how UL pricing works! The £551 fare is of fare basis IU2MP8AEIB, but this isn't found on Expertflyer.
Doing an EF search on the reverse direction shows no I class and a figure of around £1718.
2 questions:
1) Why is there a disparity between published fares and EF data here?
2) Is it possible to book CGK-AUH fare close to the £551 fare for AUH-CGK?
Thanks.
Mar 26, 2019, 3:01 am
#1177
Moderator: Qatar Airways
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: LHR/NCE/MIA
Programs: BAEC GfL & GGL, SQ Gold, Amex Centurion, Mucci des Chevaliers des Bons Mots et Qui Savent Moucher
Posts: 8,948
Hi All,
Thanks to those who've done the AUH-CGK run before I thought I'd look into this, ideally doing a B2B in CGK as I'd rather spend the time in AUH with friends than staying over. This would require booking a separate CGK-AUH trip (yes, I've researched the potential issues with B2B in CGK).
Looking at pricing however I find huge discrepancy between AUH-CGK and CGK-AUH fares - 4 times more to do the reverse. I then started looking in Expertflyer and find it difficult to figure out how UL pricing works! The £551 fare is of fare basis IU2MP8AEIB, but this isn't found on Expertflyer.
Doing an EF search on the reverse direction shows no I class and a figure of around £1718.
2 questions:
1) Why is there a disparity between published fares and EF data here?
2) Is it possible to book CGK-AUH fare close to the £551 fare for AUH-CGK?
Thanks.
Thanks to those who've done the AUH-CGK run before I thought I'd look into this, ideally doing a B2B in CGK as I'd rather spend the time in AUH with friends than staying over. This would require booking a separate CGK-AUH trip (yes, I've researched the potential issues with B2B in CGK).
Looking at pricing however I find huge discrepancy between AUH-CGK and CGK-AUH fares - 4 times more to do the reverse. I then started looking in Expertflyer and find it difficult to figure out how UL pricing works! The £551 fare is of fare basis IU2MP8AEIB, but this isn't found on Expertflyer.
Doing an EF search on the reverse direction shows no I class and a figure of around £1718.
2 questions:
1) Why is there a disparity between published fares and EF data here?
2) Is it possible to book CGK-AUH fare close to the £551 fare for AUH-CGK?
Thanks.
M
Mar 26, 2019, 3:08 am
#1178
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA GGL, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 910
Ticket 1: AUH-CGK
Ticket 2: CGK-AUH
Ticket 2: AUH-CGK
Ticket 1: CGK-AUH
To give time in AUH.
The issue is that the Ticket 2 originating in CGK is 4 times the price of Ticket 1 originating in AUH.
Mar 26, 2019, 3:28 am
#1179
Moderator: Qatar Airways
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: LHR/NCE/MIA
Programs: BAEC GfL & GGL, SQ Gold, Amex Centurion, Mucci des Chevaliers des Bons Mots et Qui Savent Moucher
Posts: 8,948
Without help from the higher ups at CGK, I'd give you a 5% chance of making the flight!
M
Mar 26, 2019, 5:00 am
#1180
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 1,197
Need a bit of assistance if possible.
I logged into my tier point run details today (Via American Airlines) to find that they've changed one of the flights to "Envoy Air as American Eagle" with a slightly different time.
From what I know, I now wont be getting tier points from that flight, which breaks my plan to get gold. Is this a big enough change that I can call them to get them to give me a different flight option, then claim original routing values (I could go SFO to JFK direct rather than via ORD), or am I screwed?
I logged into my tier point run details today (Via American Airlines) to find that they've changed one of the flights to "Envoy Air as American Eagle" with a slightly different time.
From what I know, I now wont be getting tier points from that flight, which breaks my plan to get gold. Is this a big enough change that I can call them to get them to give me a different flight option, then claim original routing values (I could go SFO to JFK direct rather than via ORD), or am I screwed?
Mar 26, 2019, 5:02 am
#1181
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 323
You should be entitled to cancel the booking. I have the same for a TP run I booked for Jan 2020
Mar 26, 2019, 5:04 am
#1182
Join Date: May 2014
Location: BRU
Programs: BA GGL, TK E (*G), ITA exec
Posts: 4,097
Need a bit of assistance if possible.
I logged into my tier point run details today (Via American Airlines) to find that they've changed one of the flights to "Envoy Air as American Eagle" with a slightly different time.
From what I know, I now wont be getting tier points from that flight, which breaks my plan to get gold. Is this a big enough change that I can call them to get them to give me a different flight option, then claim original routing values (I could go SFO to JFK direct rather than via ORD), or am I screwed?
I logged into my tier point run details today (Via American Airlines) to find that they've changed one of the flights to "Envoy Air as American Eagle" with a slightly different time.
From what I know, I now wont be getting tier points from that flight, which breaks my plan to get gold. Is this a big enough change that I can call them to get them to give me a different flight option, then claim original routing values (I could go SFO to JFK direct rather than via ORD), or am I screwed?
Mar 26, 2019, 5:11 am
#1183
Join Date: Feb 2018
Programs: BA
Posts: 29
You do get TP from American Eagle flights whoever they are operated by (Envoy Air being the new name for American Eagle anyway, but they now also subcontract American Eagle flights to Mesa/Skywest/etc.)
Mar 26, 2019, 5:19 am
#1184
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 1,197
Hmmm... OK. I could have sworn I was told that American Eagle didn't earn TP.
With regard to rebooking. What's the right way to do that and still getting original routing credit?
With regard to rebooking. What's the right way to do that and still getting original routing credit?
Mar 26, 2019, 5:25 am
#1185
Join Date: Feb 2018
Programs: BA
Posts: 29
Still odd that on a TP run you are going via ORD for 80TP rather than 140TP direct SFO-JFK?