Jan 4, 2019, 9:09 am
Last edit by: jfkeze
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
15 Oct £0.96/TP £154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb £1.90/TP £152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug £2.06/TP £329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul £2.99/TP £2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec £1.90/TP £1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr £2.29/TP £640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com
From North, Central and South America
10Jan £1.52/TP £668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr £0.90/TP £215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr £ 0.76/TP £ 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr £ 1.04/TP £ 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May £ 0.70/TP £ 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun £ 0.52/TP £ 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
04/01 £0.95/TP £479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 £2.07/TP £2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)
From Africa
04/01 £1.80/TP £721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2018 Archive
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
Jan 8, 2019, 1:56 pm
#226
Join Date: Nov 2009
Programs: BAEC, SPG, Virgin Flying Club
Posts: 124
Hi
Searching for this Germany sale, I'm getting a problem of the fare jumping (a lot) from ITA through into AA / Priceline (for different dates and different flight combinations)
"Error: Unable to find class IR6M2QD-k-i for itinRow."
I'm getting this small error message at the top of ITA matrix regardless of browser, and though I've posted in one of the ITA threads too, does anyone know what this is / whether this would cause the problem of fare jumping when you go over to a carrier?
Searching for this Germany sale, I'm getting a problem of the fare jumping (a lot) from ITA through into AA / Priceline (for different dates and different flight combinations)
"Error: Unable to find class IR6M2QD-k-i for itinRow."
I'm getting this small error message at the top of ITA matrix regardless of browser, and though I've posted in one of the ITA threads too, does anyone know what this is / whether this would cause the problem of fare jumping when you go over to a carrier?
Jan 8, 2019, 3:08 pm
#227
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 2
Can point to right direction?
Jan 8, 2019, 3:30 pm
#228
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 1,683
Call AA and ask them for the other Locator Codes. I booked a ARN-MIA recently, via Amex, got the AA one, and a BA one. The AA one showed all flights, but no help with seats on AY. The BA one showed the HEL-LHR as well as the LHR-MIA flight, called AA and got an additional AY one which showed the ARN-HEL, HEL-LHR and returns on these two sectors.
Jan 8, 2019, 3:34 pm
#229
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,709
Call AA and ask them for the other Locator Codes. I booked a ARN-MIA recently, via Amex, got the AA one, and a BA one. The AA one showed all flights, but no help with seats on AY. The BA one showed the HEL-LHR as well as the LHR-MIA flight, called AA and got an additional AY one which showed the ARN-HEL, HEL-LHR and returns on these two sectors.
Jan 8, 2019, 4:12 pm
#230
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Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,967
Example
If you make a booking with AA and it contains AA operated & marketed, BA operated & AA marketed flights, and BA operated & marketed flights you should have:
- AA PNR issued on your ticket from AA - used to do seat selection for your AA operated & marketed flights
- BA PNR for seat selection on your BA operated & AA marketed flights
- another BA PNR for seat selection on your BA operated & marketed flights
If you make a booking with AA and it contains AA operated & marketed, BA operated & AA marketed flights, and BA operated & marketed flights you should have:
- AA PNR issued on your ticket from AA - used to do seat selection for your AA operated & marketed flights
- BA PNR for seat selection on your BA operated & AA marketed flights
- another BA PNR for seat selection on your BA operated & marketed flights
Jan 8, 2019, 6:28 pm
#231
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Glasgow, UK
Programs: Seigneur des Tarifs Utils First Class Mucci with Honours :) - BA GGL / CCR
Posts: 1,551
Hi
Searching for this Germany sale, I'm getting a problem of the fare jumping (a lot) from ITA through into AA / Priceline (for different dates and different flight combinations)
"Error: Unable to find class IR6M2QD-k-i for itinRow."
I'm getting this small error message at the top of ITA matrix regardless of browser, and though I've posted in one of the ITA threads too, does anyone know what this is / whether this would cause the problem of fare jumping when you go over to a carrier?
Searching for this Germany sale, I'm getting a problem of the fare jumping (a lot) from ITA through into AA / Priceline (for different dates and different flight combinations)
"Error: Unable to find class IR6M2QD-k-i for itinRow."
I'm getting this small error message at the top of ITA matrix regardless of browser, and though I've posted in one of the ITA threads too, does anyone know what this is / whether this would cause the problem of fare jumping when you go over to a carrier?
ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK
Jan 9, 2019, 1:15 am
#232
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 532
First post of 2019 so Happy New Year all.
I'm wondering about a round the world run as I have back to back weeks in HKG and Boston at the end of March. I have some flex on depart and return dates so can do ex-eu but
need to be in HKG for the week 18-22 march then the next week 25-28 in Boston.
I could go out to HKG , back to the UK then out to BOS on separate trips but it felt like it might be more interesting to go across the pacific in J as long as it's not silly money more.
Any thoughts from the hive mind?
I'm wondering about a round the world run as I have back to back weeks in HKG and Boston at the end of March. I have some flex on depart and return dates so can do ex-eu but
need to be in HKG for the week 18-22 march then the next week 25-28 in Boston.
I could go out to HKG , back to the UK then out to BOS on separate trips but it felt like it might be more interesting to go across the pacific in J as long as it's not silly money more.
Any thoughts from the hive mind?
Jan 9, 2019, 1:25 am
#233
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Barcelona, London, on a plane
Programs: BA Silver, TK E+, AA PP, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott LT Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 13,048
First post of 2019 so Happy New Year all.
I'm wondering about a round the world run as I have back to back weeks in HKG and Boston at the end of March. I have some flex on depart and return dates so can do ex-eu but
need to be in HKG for the week 18-22 march then the next week 25-28 in Boston.
I could go out to HKG , back to the UK then out to BOS on separate trips but it felt like it might be more interesting to go across the pacific in J as long as it's not silly money more.
Any thoughts from the hive mind?
I'm wondering about a round the world run as I have back to back weeks in HKG and Boston at the end of March. I have some flex on depart and return dates so can do ex-eu but
need to be in HKG for the week 18-22 march then the next week 25-28 in Boston.
I could go out to HKG , back to the UK then out to BOS on separate trips but it felt like it might be more interesting to go across the pacific in J as long as it's not silly money more.
Any thoughts from the hive mind?
If you want TPs it seems to make more sense to me to head back to the UK in between... Perhaps on Qatar for the 4 x 140 TPs...
Jan 9, 2019, 1:36 am
#234
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Between UK & US
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 184
Hi Guys,
I put some details into ITA Matrix, then copied and pasted into Matrix booker, and got the below - nearly doubled in price.
Did I do something wrong?!
Thanks!
N
I put some details into ITA Matrix, then copied and pasted into Matrix booker, and got the below - nearly doubled in price.
Did I do something wrong?!
Thanks!
N
Jan 9, 2019, 2:29 am
#235
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL, IHG Spire Elite Ambassador, HH Diamond, Avis President’s Club
Posts: 357
I booked one of the cheap germany deals to new orleans for £1050 (plus cashback etc from ebookers) and I routed one of the flights on the DUB to DFW on AA 787 but for some reason this comes up as 40TP even though its a 9h 35 minute flight. Is this an error?
Jan 9, 2019, 2:36 am
#236
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 532
I recall seeing a reasonable one-way from HKG to the US on AA J mentioned on some of the blogs. But your actual problem would then be one-ways to HKG and back from BOS.
If you want TPs it seems to make more sense to me to head back to the UK in between... Perhaps on Qatar for the 4 x 140 TPs...
If you want TPs it seems to make more sense to me to head back to the UK in between... Perhaps on Qatar for the 4 x 140 TPs...
I did try to get QR to price an ARN-HKG-(JFK or BOS)-SOF (or any EU) but it keeps throwing out the US-EU legs, not sure why.
At the moment it's looking a BA deal Germany to US west coast nested with LAX-HKG-BOS-LAX... Bout £5.5K which is a little high. 🤨
Jan 9, 2019, 2:42 am
#237
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Barcelona, London, on a plane
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Posts: 13,048
Thanks for the input. However, if I come back to the UK it resets the work travel clock and Boston is a short enough hop to be done in Econ... (shh don't tell anyone).
I did try to get QR to price an ARN-HKG-(JFK or BOS)-SOF (or any EU) but it keeps throwing out the US-EU legs, not sure why.
At the moment it's looking a BA deal Germany to US west coast nested with LAX-HKG-BOS-LAX... Bout £5.5K which is a little high. 🤨
I did try to get QR to price an ARN-HKG-(JFK or BOS)-SOF (or any EU) but it keeps throwing out the US-EU legs, not sure why.
At the moment it's looking a BA deal Germany to US west coast nested with LAX-HKG-BOS-LAX... Bout £5.5K which is a little high. 🤨
Surprised a company would let you ex-EU for J but send you to the back of the bus for a shorter flight. But then again, many policies are irrational...
Jan 9, 2019, 3:03 am
#238
Join Date: Nov 2009
Programs: BAEC, SPG, Virgin Flying Club
Posts: 124
This isn't ITA that is broken it is Powertools that you added at sometime which is broken, there is a thread on how to fix / disable it here
ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK
ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK
Jan 9, 2019, 3:17 am
#239
Join Date: Nov 2009
Programs: BAEC, SPG, Virgin Flying Club
Posts: 124
I’m having a similar problem with a FRA-PHX route. Are you getting a price quote if you copy the itinerary through to bookwithmatrix ?
Jan 9, 2019, 3:51 am
#240
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 333
There is no DUB to DFW direct flight, AFAIK. To get accurate TPs you need to enter individual segments into the calculator.