Jan 4, 2019, 9:09 am
Last edit by: jfkeze
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
15 Oct £0.96/TP £154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb £1.90/TP £152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug £2.06/TP £329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul £2.99/TP £2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec £1.90/TP £1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr £2.29/TP £640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com
From North, Central and South America
10Jan £1.52/TP £668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr £0.90/TP £215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr £ 0.76/TP £ 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr £ 1.04/TP £ 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May £ 0.70/TP £ 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun £ 0.52/TP £ 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
04/01 £0.95/TP £479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 £2.07/TP £2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)
From Africa
04/01 £1.80/TP £721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2018 Archive
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
Jan 5, 2019, 10:20 am
#61
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 22
As a MAN based flyer myself I have found that maximising TP's Eastbound usually means flying on MAN-DOH-XXX on QR. Not only convenient but a great experience with multiple ex MAN departures. There is a suggestion that a QR sale is about to happen on or around 17 January (far from certain) so it might be worth holding off if you can to see if something comes along.
To begin with, look at MAN/HKG as a direct service. You’d be earning 140TPs each way in J. But will pay the price. Do you have dates in mind? In which case what can you get price wise.
Then look at this with options via LHR. An additional 40TPs each way, but still pricey.
Consider ex-EU options via LHR on BA. Will be cheaper fitvthe same TPs. Then look at these but connecting with a OW airline. The obvious suggestion would be QR via DOH. That should see 560TPs in J.
Run some basic searches using the above and see what you get.
I’ve actually also looked at ex-EU, from Stockholm, France, Italy as other options but it seems like the below two are the options which makes the most senses:
Finnair J MAN-HEL-HKG for £1600-1700 round trip (440 TP round trip)
Qatar J MAN-DOH-HKG for £2200 round trip (560 TP round trip)
Would I be better off positioning to elsewhere in the UK to start?
Jan 5, 2019, 10:24 am
#62
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Jan 5, 2019, 10:28 am
#63
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Jan 5, 2019, 11:12 am
#64
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Thanks for the initial help!
I’ve actually also looked at ex-EU, from Stockholm, France, Italy as other options but it seems like the below two are the options which makes the most senses:
Finnair J MAN-HEL-HKG for £1600-1700 round trip (440 TP round trip)
Qatar J MAN-DOH-HKG for £2200 round trip (560 TP round trip)
Would I be better off positioning to elsewhere in the UK to start?
Jan 5, 2019, 11:37 am
#65
Join Date: Jan 2018
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Thanks for the initial help!
I’ve actually also looked at ex-EU, from Stockholm, France, Italy as other options but it seems like the below two are the options which makes the most senses:
Finnair J MAN-HEL-HKG for £1600-1700 round trip (440 TP round trip)
Qatar J MAN-DOH-HKG for £2200 round trip (560 TP round trip)
Would I be better off positioning to elsewhere in the UK to start?
I’ve actually also looked at ex-EU, from Stockholm, France, Italy as other options but it seems like the below two are the options which makes the most senses:
Finnair J MAN-HEL-HKG for £1600-1700 round trip (440 TP round trip)
Qatar J MAN-DOH-HKG for £2200 round trip (560 TP round trip)
Would I be better off positioning to elsewhere in the UK to start?
Jan 5, 2019, 12:19 pm
#66
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Glasgow, UK
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Posts: 1,551
Huge thanks to KARFA for setting up the thread! Looking forward to seeing what TP runs people get up to and become available this year.
That's a lovely little TP run! I think I'm going to try and do something similar - although probably with only 1 AUH - CMB - CGK run. However at the moment the positioning flights are coming up in the several thousands for me!
How did you manage to get the position flight in W so cheap? I'm only looking on GF rather than through ITA - would that potentially have something to do with it? (Assume the 2 runs AUH - CGK are 2 separate nested tickets? Easy to B2B there)?
That's a lovely little TP run! I think I'm going to try and do something similar - although probably with only 1 AUH - CMB - CGK run. However at the moment the positioning flights are coming up in the several thousands for me!
How did you manage to get the position flight in W so cheap? I'm only looking on GF rather than through ITA - would that potentially have something to do with it? (Assume the 2 runs AUH - CGK are 2 separate nested tickets? Easy to B2B there)?
You should be able to price to get rough dates via Google Flights then plug it into BA.com to get the correct price,
ExINV has better availability going to DXB rather than AUH and you can to a 1 hourish transfer to AUH you can even open jaw to do INV - LHR - DXB AUH - LHR - GLA/INV/EDI
Its a bit fidgety to get it to price Premium Economy as @madfish pointed out but very good value
Jan 5, 2019, 1:42 pm
#67
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Line 1 OTP-LHR
Line 2 LHR-JFK
Line 3 JFK-LAX
Line 4 LAX-PHX
Line 5 PHX-LAX
Line 6 LAX-OTP
I hope that helps
John
Jan 5, 2019, 2:21 pm
#68
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I hope that helps
John[/QUOTE]
Thank you very much !
I hope that helps
John[/QUOTE]
Thank you very much !
Jan 5, 2019, 3:09 pm
#69
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Here's what I have just booked which works out to 800 teir points and plus the positioning flights the day before and after get's me to gold again with 3 months to spare for €1239 and over 47000 Avios.
- BA0885 to London Thu 25 Jul 2019 07:55
- BA0177 to New York Thu 25 Jul 2019 13:10
- BA4310 to Los Angeles Fri 26 Jul 2019 06:00
- BA1741 to Phoenix Fri 26 Jul 2019 16:33
- BA5244 to Los Angeles Sun 28 Jul 2019 14:00
- BA2500 to Boston Mon 29 Jul 2019 09:54
- BA0202 to London Mon 29 Jul 2019 21:40
- BA0886 to Bucharest Tue 30 Jul 2019 11:40
- John
Jan 5, 2019, 5:25 pm
#70
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Last year UL also had a bunch of such great return fares to AUH / DOH / MCT from the other way round, i.e. originating CGK. This year I can't find them anymore. Are they no longer available ex CGK or am I just not looking where I should?
Jan 5, 2019, 11:05 pm
#71
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As ever, it depends. I don't mind so much positioning for the outbound flight but I do like to return to my home airport without the need to stop over wherever that might be. Many of the UK departure point fares do allow that (eg. out from INV/JER return to MAN) but ex EU itineraries almost always require returning to the country of origin or there's a hefty extra charge for an open jaw.
My advice would be to write down the overall cost of the various options including all hotel and positioning and then compare. IME that usually makes the position much clearer and the choice simpler.
My advice would be to write down the overall cost of the various options including all hotel and positioning and then compare. IME that usually makes the position much clearer and the choice simpler.
Jan 6, 2019, 12:27 am
#72
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John
Jan 6, 2019, 6:57 am
#73
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Posts: 84
Hi
I'm usually a lurker, but would appreciate some help - I can't get this to price on AA with what google flight and ITA.Matrix says the price is (see attachment
) - it keeps pricing at £2048
what am i doing wrong - i will have to book via AA to use up a $200 voucher
AMS - HNL TP run
I'm usually a lurker, but would appreciate some help - I can't get this to price on AA with what google flight and ITA.Matrix says the price is (see attachment
) - it keeps pricing at £2048
what am i doing wrong - i will have to book via AA to use up a $200 voucher
AMS - HNL TP run
Jan 6, 2019, 7:31 am
#74
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: LON
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Posts: 258
Hi
I'm usually a lurker, but would appreciate some help - I can't get this to price on AA with what google flight and ITA.Matrix says the price is (see attachment
) - it keeps pricing at £2048
what am i doing wrong - i will have to book via AA to use up a $200 voucher
AMS - HNL TP run
I'm usually a lurker, but would appreciate some help - I can't get this to price on AA with what google flight and ITA.Matrix says the price is (see attachment
) - it keeps pricing at £2048
what am i doing wrong - i will have to book via AA to use up a $200 voucher
AMS - HNL TP run
How many TPs and Avios you'll get?
Jan 6, 2019, 7:38 am
#75
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 19
How do you add so many sectors into BA.com? I find it limits it to 6?