Denied entry - return flight?
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All of these decisions are made by local authorities. Depending on the circumstances, the individual may be held in custody, may be "paroled" for however much time it is until the next flight, or may simply be told to wait for a few hours. There is no "right" answer to this and many of these decisions will be influenced by current relations between the nations involved.
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So surely the correct approach would be to go and sit in the toilets at LED for a couple of hours until midnight passes, and then go and speak to immigration at that point...
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I've always had the impression that the carrier is obligated to return the person even if doing so means that they must VDB/IDB another passenger. However, in the case of Russia, they might need to be sure to pick someone for when the additional day would not mean an overstay of that person's visa.
Also, if the carrier doesn't have a flight returning the same day (which I suspect is generally not the case for Russia), would the carrier be obligated to rebook the person on some other airline?
Also, if the carrier doesn't have a flight returning the same day (which I suspect is generally not the case for Russia), would the carrier be obligated to rebook the person on some other airline?
Ultimately, as mentioned, this is all about immigration authorities (or courts, if the authorities’ decision is challenged) decisions. There are many possible ways to resolve this from relatively innocuous to very unpleasant.
incidentally in the case described in the op of the visa starting 24 hours after arrival, I would have expected some conciliatory resolution in many countries, but this is Russia and admittedly bureaucracy can be rather challenging there...
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I was actually denied entry to a country once, and my best friend was as well (different country). In both cases, the immigration people asked us to buy tickets on the return flights of the airplanes that carried us, and in both cases, we instinctively said this wasn't possible. The airlines didn't make any effort to charge us, presumably because the money is trivial compared to the value of being able to serve countries X and Y.
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Not what I should be reading when heading to LED on my second 1 night “tourist” visa in 5 weeks next week. Has anyone had issues with using multiple tourist visa’s in Russia? I shall be applying for a proper working one in January as this project seems to be kicking off, but there just hasn’t been time this year!
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I once had a situation where I was denied entry in a country due to too many entries and exceeding the 180 day maximum in the last 12 months. Lufthansa actually had to bump someone off the return flight so I could get on and the flight posted to my mileage account as full Y when I did a retro claim using the data from my bp. I came there on a one way ticket and had a separate one way ticket going back on LX (both issued by BMI Diamond Club) which wasn't of interest to them.
Also the purser has to keep your passport and return it to you short before landing.
Also the purser has to keep your passport and return it to you short before landing.
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Surely the most important question here is if you arrive in F/J, are you returned in the same cabin you booked or dumped into Y?
If the latter, I wouldn't like to be denied entry to Australia..
If the latter, I wouldn't like to be denied entry to Australia..
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Not what I should be reading when heading to LED on my second 1 night “tourist” visa in 5 weeks next week. Has anyone had issues with using multiple tourist visa’s in Russia? I shall be applying for a proper working one in January as this project seems to be kicking off, but there just hasn’t been time this year!
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In my case, my ticket was in Y, but they handed me a (handwritten) J boarding place on the flight back (excellent service btw; I think the crew felt sorry for me).
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I travel to Russia quite frequently and - in my experience - the whole immigration process (getting a visa/going through a passport control) is on the whole much easier than it’s ever been.
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It is not ridiculous. Yes, absolutely, you should travel with the correct paperwork, but to think that problems with it always necessarily result in denied entry is simply inaccurate. Both cases - someone with a valid visa but which was requested to start a day later, someone who duly obtained a visa but the wrong type assuming it was not an ‘easier’ type (eg get a holiday visa when you’d have needed a working one is different from get a holiday visa when you’d have needed a conference one) and where the appropriate visa application would have required the same paperwork are situations where in most countries, the authorities would have discretion to requalify and end up allowing entry. Other cases that can be resolved are minor clerical mistakes such as misspelling your middle name in an online application etc. Obviously discretion is just that, it doesn’t mean you’ll necessarily be allowed and officers will usually assess the seriousness, the intention, the history etc but immigration authorities have options.
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