Some Classic DYKWIA Behaviour in T5 North Galleries
#31
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Are you serious in that you think it should be me that found a different place to charge? Why?
#32
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Totally agree with you as far as that goes. It's the solution that made me think twice. If you're willing to pull his cables at all, be willing to do it while he's there. I'm certain he won't like that anymore than he did coming back and finding them disconnected, but I think the most basic difference between the lounge and the gate - far more so than the amenities - is being able to leave your stuff unattended with the expectation that it'll be left alone while you're away. Let's not let a flaming **heel cause us to lose that.
#33
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Appears to be a classic case of 2 wrongs don't make a right.
I would have thought that the same rules apply on the ground as in the air. If you are unhappy about what somebody else is doing, then report it to somebody in authority. Don't take the law into your own hands.
I would have thought that the same rules apply on the ground as in the air. If you are unhappy about what somebody else is doing, then report it to somebody in authority. Don't take the law into your own hands.
#34
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Appears to be a classic case of 2 wrongs don't make a right.
I would have thought that the same rules apply on the ground as in the air. If you are unhappy about what somebody else is doing, then report it to somebody in authority. Don't take the law into your own hands.
I would have thought that the same rules apply on the ground as in the air. If you are unhappy about what somebody else is doing, then report it to somebody in authority. Don't take the law into your own hands.
#35
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Oh dear me. Yes the bloke was a tube. But it wasn’t anti-social behaviour that needed to be reported, it was inconsiderate.
Yes, polite etiquette would demand that he be more considerate and let others charge, but the bottom line is that he is no more or less “entitled” to use the sockets as he saw fit than anyone else. Personally I think unplugging all his stuff while his back was turned and encouraging others to do likewise was pretty boorish and entitled behaviour in itself.
Yes, polite etiquette would demand that he be more considerate and let others charge, but the bottom line is that he is no more or less “entitled” to use the sockets as he saw fit than anyone else. Personally I think unplugging all his stuff while his back was turned and encouraging others to do likewise was pretty boorish and entitled behaviour in itself.
#36
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Agree with the comments that the OP behaved pretty borishly. Not that I would ever use all the sockets like that, but if the OP touched my stuff whilst my back was turned I’d have had some much sterner words to say to him than it sounds like the gentleman in question did.
OP you should be ashamed of yourself for stooping to the same level of anti-social behaviour as that bloke.
OP you should be ashamed of yourself for stooping to the same level of anti-social behaviour as that bloke.
#37
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And if he was in a chair you wanted? You asked and he said no, as you say it was a request, he reasonably said no as he was using them. Why do you believe you have some entitlement to the sockets, he was there first and using them. I think you behaved poorly and acted the bully. You underline me, why? The DYKWIA behavior here is clearly you in my opinion.
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And if he was in a chair you wanted? You asked and he said no, as you say it was a request, he reasonably said no as he was using them. Why do you believe you have some entitlement to the sockets, he was there first and using them. I think you behaved poorly and acted the bully. You underline me, why? The DYKWIA behavior here is clearly you in my opinion.
#39
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Agree with the comments that the OP behaved pretty borishly. Not that I would ever use all the sockets like that, but if the OP touched my stuff whilst my back was turned I’d have had some much sterner words to say to him than it sounds like the gentleman in question did.
OP you should be ashamed of yourself for stooping to the same level of anti-social behaviour as that bloke.
OP you should be ashamed of yourself for stooping to the same level of anti-social behaviour as that bloke.
#40
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And if he was in a chair you wanted? You asked and he said no, as you say it was a request, he reasonably said no as he was using them. Why do you believe you have some entitlement to the sockets, he was there first and using them. I think you behaved poorly and acted the bully. You underline me, why? The DYKWIA behavior here is clearly you in my opinion.
As for him saying "no" you think was a "reasonable" response. Seriously???
#41
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I thought there are announcements all over the place to not have unattended items? Seems fair game to me to unplug items that are apparently abandoned. I'd have turned them into the lost and found.
#42
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I’m with others in believeing that bad behaviour does not warrant retaliation of this kind. The guy was an idiot yes but I just don’t think we should be touching other people’s stuff left unattended.
If he’d taken the last five sausages from the buffet would you feel entitled to take 2 or 3 of them from his plate after you asked to have a couple and been refused? He would have been rude and inconsiderate to take all five remaining sausages but that doesn’t mean you are entitled to them...
it seems this guy took it relatively well but doing what you did risked causing a huge argument and tension in what is meant to be a peaceful environment - even if I thought I was entitled to an outlet I wouldn’t have risked that disruption to many more of my fellow lounge users by antagonising him in the way you did.
If he’d taken the last five sausages from the buffet would you feel entitled to take 2 or 3 of them from his plate after you asked to have a couple and been refused? He would have been rude and inconsiderate to take all five remaining sausages but that doesn’t mean you are entitled to them...
it seems this guy took it relatively well but doing what you did risked causing a huge argument and tension in what is meant to be a peaceful environment - even if I thought I was entitled to an outlet I wouldn’t have risked that disruption to many more of my fellow lounge users by antagonising him in the way you did.
#43
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Really? When the owner had gone to the bathroom? Sounds a bit childish to me.
#44
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I didn't know where he went - I assumed it was either the loo or the food buffet. Yes, things should never be left unattended in an airport, we all surely know that. I didn't know how long he was going to be gone so it seemed fair game to make use of he sockets - to have been a childish reaction would have been to simply disconnect his items. But it was done so others can make use of what is supposed to be a resource for ANY lounge user, not just one person. There is a big difference to have merely disconnected or to disconnect so others can use something as a lounge benefit presumably for all lounge users?
#45
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Yes, that will undoubtedly be my course of action next time. Fantastic ^^