Doing the maths for EDI-LAS in CW ( and going WT+)
Aug 5, 2018, 6:33 am
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Doing the maths for EDI-LAS in CW ( and going WT+)
Hi,
I was thinking of booking a CW flight from EDI to Las Vegas ( via London) for 10days /2 weeks at the start of september so during July I was pricing several options
CW EDI-LHR-LAS £3500+
I then considered ex-eu
DUB-LHR-LAS £2100
ARN/Oslo-LHR-LAS-£2070 approx
LIS-LHR-LAS £1700
Other european destinations c £3000+
However the positioning fights were very expensive ( EDI-DUB/ £500 in CE. EDI to LIS and ARN , £600 to £800 in CE return ( with the cheapest getting in at around 2300 then having to head back to LHR at 0745 the next morning ( even Y was in the £400-£500 range) . Other carriers ( LH were in the £400-£600 range with awkward timings). I was a little surprised at the high CE costs
Dublin hotels were pricing at over £200 per night
So adding it all up was getting expensive,
I decided to look at WT+ from EDI and it came up at £1430 for departing 1 Sep and back 12 sep ( coming back on the 13th adds £400)
I have First lounge access and extra baggage allowance, the outbound tier points are not relevant ( apart from adding to my lifetime total as my membership year ends on 8th September) The outbound flight is a day time fight and the return flight is at 2130 so will be tired- I get back to EDI on Thursday but do not go back to work until Monday
So I decided to book WT+ ( Have not flown it in years but should be ok) with the following
1st Sep 0745 EDI-LHR in ET ( exit row able to be reserved) and with lots of time to explore the T3 lounges
1st Sep 1630 LHR-LAS ( WT+ bulkhead 12A booked)
12th Sep 2130 LAS-LHR ( WT+ 12b booked)
13th Sep 1800 LHR-EDI ET ( exit row booked)
saving over £1600 compared to CW.
With the money saved I booked the £1500 LHR-DOH-HKG QR fare for late Nov for 560tps.
In Las vegas I got the Mandalay Bay for $90 for Sun-Fri ( plus tax plus the $37 resort fee pn) compared with the bellagio at over $200+ pn ( and the sun-wed night).
Planning on the HGI South by the premium outlets on the Fri-Sun and do some shopping
Looking forward to the MBay beach and the lazy river.
Whilst the 747 looks like the unrefurbed a/c , I will have some magazines and books with me so the flight should be fine.
So far no avios availability but will keep looking
Regards
TBS
I was thinking of booking a CW flight from EDI to Las Vegas ( via London) for 10days /2 weeks at the start of september so during July I was pricing several options
CW EDI-LHR-LAS £3500+
I then considered ex-eu
DUB-LHR-LAS £2100
ARN/Oslo-LHR-LAS-£2070 approx
LIS-LHR-LAS £1700
Other european destinations c £3000+
However the positioning fights were very expensive ( EDI-DUB/ £500 in CE. EDI to LIS and ARN , £600 to £800 in CE return ( with the cheapest getting in at around 2300 then having to head back to LHR at 0745 the next morning ( even Y was in the £400-£500 range) . Other carriers ( LH were in the £400-£600 range with awkward timings). I was a little surprised at the high CE costs
Dublin hotels were pricing at over £200 per night
So adding it all up was getting expensive,
I decided to look at WT+ from EDI and it came up at £1430 for departing 1 Sep and back 12 sep ( coming back on the 13th adds £400)
I have First lounge access and extra baggage allowance, the outbound tier points are not relevant ( apart from adding to my lifetime total as my membership year ends on 8th September) The outbound flight is a day time fight and the return flight is at 2130 so will be tired- I get back to EDI on Thursday but do not go back to work until Monday
So I decided to book WT+ ( Have not flown it in years but should be ok) with the following
1st Sep 0745 EDI-LHR in ET ( exit row able to be reserved) and with lots of time to explore the T3 lounges
1st Sep 1630 LHR-LAS ( WT+ bulkhead 12A booked)
12th Sep 2130 LAS-LHR ( WT+ 12b booked)
13th Sep 1800 LHR-EDI ET ( exit row booked)
saving over £1600 compared to CW.
With the money saved I booked the £1500 LHR-DOH-HKG QR fare for late Nov for 560tps.
In Las vegas I got the Mandalay Bay for $90 for Sun-Fri ( plus tax plus the $37 resort fee pn) compared with the bellagio at over $200+ pn ( and the sun-wed night).
Planning on the HGI South by the premium outlets on the Fri-Sun and do some shopping
Looking forward to the MBay beach and the lazy river.
Whilst the 747 looks like the unrefurbed a/c , I will have some magazines and books with me so the flight should be fine.
So far no avios availability but will keep looking
Regards
TBS
Aug 5, 2018, 6:38 am
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Hi,
I was thinking of booking a CW flight from EDI to Las Vegas ( via London) for 10days /2 weeks at the start of september so during July I was pricing several options
CW EDI-LHR-LAS £3500+
I then considered ex-eu
DUB-LHR-LAS £2100
ARN/Oslo-LHR-LAS-£2070 approx
LIS-LHR-LAS £1700
Other european destinations c £3000+
However the positioning fights were very expensive ( EDI-DUB/ £500 in CE. EDI to LIS and ARN , £600 to £800 in CE return ( with the cheapest getting in at around 2300 then having to head back to LHR at 0745 the next morning ( even Y was in the £400-£500 range) . Other carriers ( LH were in the £400-£600 range with awkward timings). I was a little surprised at the high CE costs
Dublin hotels were pricing at over £200 per night
So adding it all up was getting expensive,
I decided to look at WT+ from EDI and it came up at £1430 for departing 1 Sep and back 12 sep ( coming back on the 13th adds £400)
I have First lounge access and extra baggage allowance, the outbound tier points are not relevant ( apart from adding to my lifetime total as my membership year ends on 8th September) The outbound flight is a day time fight and the return flight is at 2130 so will be tired- I get back to EDI on Thursday but do not go back to work until Monday
So I decided to book WT+ ( Have not flown it in years but should be ok) with the following
1st Sep 0745 EDI-LHR in ET ( exit row able to be reserved) and with lots of time to explore the T3 lounges
1st Sep 1630 LHR-LAS ( WT+ bulkhead 12A booked)
12th Sep 2130 LAS-LHR ( WT+ 12b booked)
13th Sep 1800 LHR-EDI ET ( exit row booked)
saving over £1600 compared to CW.
With the money saved I booked the £1500 LHR-DOH-HKG QR fare for late Nov for 560tps.
In Las vegas I got the Mandalay Bay for $90 for Sun-Fri ( plus tax plus the $37 resort fee pn) compared with the bellagio at over $200+ pn ( and the sun-wed night).
Planning on the HGI South by the premium outlets on the Fri-Sun and do some shopping
Looking forward to the MBay beach and the lazy river.
Whilst the 747 looks like the unrefurbed a/c , I will have some magazines and books with me so the flight should be fine.
So far no avios availability but will keep looking
Regards
TBS
I was thinking of booking a CW flight from EDI to Las Vegas ( via London) for 10days /2 weeks at the start of september so during July I was pricing several options
CW EDI-LHR-LAS £3500+
I then considered ex-eu
DUB-LHR-LAS £2100
ARN/Oslo-LHR-LAS-£2070 approx
LIS-LHR-LAS £1700
Other european destinations c £3000+
However the positioning fights were very expensive ( EDI-DUB/ £500 in CE. EDI to LIS and ARN , £600 to £800 in CE return ( with the cheapest getting in at around 2300 then having to head back to LHR at 0745 the next morning ( even Y was in the £400-£500 range) . Other carriers ( LH were in the £400-£600 range with awkward timings). I was a little surprised at the high CE costs
Dublin hotels were pricing at over £200 per night
So adding it all up was getting expensive,
I decided to look at WT+ from EDI and it came up at £1430 for departing 1 Sep and back 12 sep ( coming back on the 13th adds £400)
I have First lounge access and extra baggage allowance, the outbound tier points are not relevant ( apart from adding to my lifetime total as my membership year ends on 8th September) The outbound flight is a day time fight and the return flight is at 2130 so will be tired- I get back to EDI on Thursday but do not go back to work until Monday
So I decided to book WT+ ( Have not flown it in years but should be ok) with the following
1st Sep 0745 EDI-LHR in ET ( exit row able to be reserved) and with lots of time to explore the T3 lounges
1st Sep 1630 LHR-LAS ( WT+ bulkhead 12A booked)
12th Sep 2130 LAS-LHR ( WT+ 12b booked)
13th Sep 1800 LHR-EDI ET ( exit row booked)
saving over £1600 compared to CW.
With the money saved I booked the £1500 LHR-DOH-HKG QR fare for late Nov for 560tps.
In Las vegas I got the Mandalay Bay for $90 for Sun-Fri ( plus tax plus the $37 resort fee pn) compared with the bellagio at over $200+ pn ( and the sun-wed night).
Planning on the HGI South by the premium outlets on the Fri-Sun and do some shopping
Looking forward to the MBay beach and the lazy river.
Whilst the 747 looks like the unrefurbed a/c , I will have some magazines and books with me so the flight should be fine.
So far no avios availability but will keep looking
Regards
TBS
Aug 5, 2018, 7:08 am
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Assuming you get an exit or front row seat I think you’ll find WT+ perfectly fine for the outbound flight. Overnight without a flat bed is never fun but knowing you are paying for a whole other trip on QR by doing that should make it more than worthwhile.
Aug 5, 2018, 7:09 am
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Just had a look myself since I want to go similar dates, its about the same as EDI.
Annoying, last year 22nd nov to 9th dec I paid about £1900 in F LHR-LAS-LHR. No clue how that happened to be honest.
Annoying, last year 22nd nov to 9th dec I paid about £1900 in F LHR-LAS-LHR. No clue how that happened to be honest.
Aug 5, 2018, 7:18 am
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Hi,
Thanks
Also coming back to INV, BA.com was giving a 2 stop return flight going via PHL and MAN with loganair up to Inv ( landing at 10pm so resulting in a overnight stay anyway plus a 3hr train journey home ( I'm 25 mins from EDI) but Inv is another possibility for future.
The EDI fights have now increased by £160 ( I think we are within 28 days now from 1st Sep)
With my layover in LHR, I will try all of the OW lounges in T3.
Regards
TBS
Thanks
Also coming back to INV, BA.com was giving a 2 stop return flight going via PHL and MAN with loganair up to Inv ( landing at 10pm so resulting in a overnight stay anyway plus a 3hr train journey home ( I'm 25 mins from EDI) but Inv is another possibility for future.
The EDI fights have now increased by £160 ( I think we are within 28 days now from 1st Sep)
With my layover in LHR, I will try all of the OW lounges in T3.
Regards
TBS
Aug 5, 2018, 7:32 am
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I’m also heading to LAS from Edinburgh a couple of days earlier also from Edi on the 30th Aug on a 2 for 1 in F that I managed to snag.
Been keeping an eye on the 275 flight recently and it seems to be delayed on the majority of the flights, not sure why, so potentially more time to sample the T3 lounges.
Just hope the heat dies down a bit, we Scots struggle with 25 degrees, never mind the 45 degrees that’s there just now 😆
Been keeping an eye on the 275 flight recently and it seems to be delayed on the majority of the flights, not sure why, so potentially more time to sample the T3 lounges.
Just hope the heat dies down a bit, we Scots struggle with 25 degrees, never mind the 45 degrees that’s there just now 😆
Aug 5, 2018, 7:59 am
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I’m also heading to LAS from Edinburgh a couple of days earlier also from Edi on the 30th Aug on a 2 for 1 in F that I managed to snag.
Been keeping an eye on the 275 flight recently and it seems to be delayed on the majority of the flights, not sure why, so potentially more time to sample the T3 lounges.
Just hope the heat dies down a bit, we Scots struggle with 25 degrees, never mind the 45 degrees that’s there just now 😆
Been keeping an eye on the 275 flight recently and it seems to be delayed on the majority of the flights, not sure why, so potentially more time to sample the T3 lounges.
Just hope the heat dies down a bit, we Scots struggle with 25 degrees, never mind the 45 degrees that’s there just now 😆
My flight back also came up as delayed due to delay of incoming flight. We left LAS about 20 mins late, but made it up.
Aug 5, 2018, 8:05 am
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Hi,
I've been to Vegas and Phoenix in the Summer ( including July 2017) so I can appreciate the heat. Planning on relaxing by the pools and exploring some of the casinos again ( the fountains of Bellagio and the Conservatory, Venetian and Caesars palace via the monorail.
I can get from MB up to NYNY all indoors via Luxor and Excalibur then the footbridges to MGM and the monorail.
Will take plenty of water and sunscreen. I often find that in the buffets in the evening I feel a little cool as the a/c is turned up high. I do not plan on doing outdoor tours during the day ( done most of the tours on previous visits)
Regards
TBS
I've been to Vegas and Phoenix in the Summer ( including July 2017) so I can appreciate the heat. Planning on relaxing by the pools and exploring some of the casinos again ( the fountains of Bellagio and the Conservatory, Venetian and Caesars palace via the monorail.
I can get from MB up to NYNY all indoors via Luxor and Excalibur then the footbridges to MGM and the monorail.
Will take plenty of water and sunscreen. I often find that in the buffets in the evening I feel a little cool as the a/c is turned up high. I do not plan on doing outdoor tours during the day ( done most of the tours on previous visits)
Regards
TBS
Aug 5, 2018, 8:10 am
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I am faced with a similar challenge in November where I have to go to LAS for a conference. I don't think they will spring for the £5000 Club fare!
Aug 5, 2018, 8:57 am
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If you book LGW-LAS-LHR, out 2 September (or Friday 31 August), back 12 September (or Sat 15 September), that is £897 in WTP. That looks to be a non combinable fare, so you would have to add in £75 for EDI-LGW-EDI, if HBO, and therefore comes in at about £965 all in. Probably needs a LGW hotel though given it would be on separate bookings. However the separate bookings would perhaps facilitate a POUG.
Aug 5, 2018, 9:46 am
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I had a similar situation for my trip a couple of months ago, so il write what I ended up doing in case anyone else reading this wants ideas. WT+ on the LAS 747 is very poor (sorry) and a lot of the reviews said an exit row in economy would be better. So for £1k return (DUB-LHR-LAS) used my gold for a free exit row seat in Y with no one around us (28B+C) and came back in club world via LAX so that I could get it on the A380 (and got to enjoy Qantas first lounge in LAX). Positioning flight on Ryanair BRS-DUB £40ish. As far as the flight on the A380, if you can pick the best upper deck CW seats then it wasn’t much worse than QR and I was pleasantly surprised and very impressed with the seat, although I would only say that for window seats on the upper deck.
Not sure why you are looking at paying several hundred to get to DUB in CE? Besides the fact you can get exit row seats in ET for free, you can probably go with Ryanair on a very short flight for a lot cheaper? Unless you have no status/have it as part of a connecting CW ticket/need the tier points, CE seems like a complete waste of money
Not sure why you are looking at paying several hundred to get to DUB in CE? Besides the fact you can get exit row seats in ET for free, you can probably go with Ryanair on a very short flight for a lot cheaper? Unless you have no status/have it as part of a connecting CW ticket/need the tier points, CE seems like a complete waste of money
Aug 5, 2018, 9:57 am
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I find the seat padding to be inadequate even in WTP and would suggest considering taking your own cushion. Maybe it is just that I have less padding in my butt but after about 2 hours into a flight, it starts to become uncomfortable and by the end of a transatlantic flight it is beyond uncomfortable and into painful.
https://www.vivehealth.com/blogs/res...e-seat-cushion
Since you are not even considering Economy, I presume comfort is of importance to you, not just price.
https://www.vivehealth.com/blogs/res...e-seat-cushion
Since you are not even considering Economy, I presume comfort is of importance to you, not just price.
Aug 5, 2018, 9:58 am
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https://www.google.co.uk/flights/#fl...50*.GBP.136650
Aug 5, 2018, 10:07 am
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When in November? BAs WT+ on LAS is absolutely horrific and I wouldn’t pay half what the OP has. For your trip you can go Virgin from DUB in J for £1350
https://www.google.co.uk/flights/#fl...50*.GBP.136650
Aug 5, 2018, 10:08 am
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When in November? BAs WT+ on LAS is absolutely horrific and I wouldn’t pay half what the OP has. For your trip you can go Virgin from DUB in J for £1350
https://www.google.co.uk/flights/#fl...50*.GBP.136650