First Post from Longtime Lurker! [Chances of upgrade LHR to KIN via MIA]
Nov 13, 2017, 9:03 am
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First Post from Longtime Lurker! [Chances of upgrade LHR to KIN via MIA]
Hi folks,
I’ve been lurking for years, but finally took the plunge and decided to post as I now have a specific question(s). I’d really appreciate some help please.
So, I’m travelling on a fully flex WTP ticket from LHR to KIN via MIA at 0915 on 20/11, returning KIN to LGW at 1930 on 01/12.
Any idea what the chances of an upgrade (either operational upgrade or decent deal at the airport?) are based on your tools that tell you how full the plane is? My firm just wont book CW anymore ��
Also, my layover at MIA is nearly 3 hours, so assuming I’m not lucky enough on the upgrade front, what options are there for a lowly Blue member (silver has long lapsed!) on the lounge front? Are there any good pay options?
Sorry to go on, but any help gratefully received!
Dom
I’ve been lurking for years, but finally took the plunge and decided to post as I now have a specific question(s). I’d really appreciate some help please.
So, I’m travelling on a fully flex WTP ticket from LHR to KIN via MIA at 0915 on 20/11, returning KIN to LGW at 1930 on 01/12.
Any idea what the chances of an upgrade (either operational upgrade or decent deal at the airport?) are based on your tools that tell you how full the plane is? My firm just wont book CW anymore ��
Also, my layover at MIA is nearly 3 hours, so assuming I’m not lucky enough on the upgrade front, what options are there for a lowly Blue member (silver has long lapsed!) on the lounge front? Are there any good pay options?
Sorry to go on, but any help gratefully received!
Dom
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Nov 13, 2017, 9:06 am
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Outbound - F1 A0 J8 C3 D3 R2 I0 W9 E6 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O0 G9
Inbound - J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W5 E3 T1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L8 V4 S4 N0 Q0 O0 G0
I'll leave this here for someone far more intelligent than I am to explain what it means in your particular case!
Inbound - J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W5 E3 T1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L8 V4 S4 N0 Q0 O0 G0
I'll leave this here for someone far more intelligent than I am to explain what it means in your particular case!
Nov 13, 2017, 9:22 am
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Welcome out of the darkness! Hopefully the first post of many.
That's the number of seats remaining for sale in each fare class bucket, so there are still a number of WTP seats for sale in W and E buckets, as well as quite a lot of WT seats available for sale. Doesn't mean BA won't decide to upgrade you to try to tempt you to buy CW in future though...
That's the number of seats remaining for sale in each fare class bucket, so there are still a number of WTP seats for sale in W and E buckets, as well as quite a lot of WT seats available for sale. Doesn't mean BA won't decide to upgrade you to try to tempt you to buy CW in future though...
Nov 13, 2017, 9:45 am
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Let me post my welcome to you dombo17uk, welcome to the BA board here on Flyertalk, thank you for the question and emerging from lurkerlife.
From those numbers, I would say that you don't have much chance of an upgrade leaving London, but you are perhaps in with a small chance on the return. G9 and the other numbers says "this is not a full flight", so the usual rolling forward doesn't appear to be on the card, BA is selling lower priced seats to fill that aircraft up. For the return, on the other hand, it's looking overbooked in WT some something will have to give.
If you want CW on the outbound I think you are looking at perhaps a proactive paid upgrade (POUG) at Online check in stage, or a airport paid upgrade on the day. Possible prices to be found in the relevant threads in the Dashboard. This will allow you access to the BA, Cathay and AA lounges, of which the Cathay has the most supporters in this forum.
At T3 and MIA you can alsio just buy your access to other lounges there if you wish, or go to one of the restaurants and find a nice quiet corner to work/relax.
From those numbers, I would say that you don't have much chance of an upgrade leaving London, but you are perhaps in with a small chance on the return. G9 and the other numbers says "this is not a full flight", so the usual rolling forward doesn't appear to be on the card, BA is selling lower priced seats to fill that aircraft up. For the return, on the other hand, it's looking overbooked in WT some something will have to give.
If you want CW on the outbound I think you are looking at perhaps a proactive paid upgrade (POUG) at Online check in stage, or a airport paid upgrade on the day. Possible prices to be found in the relevant threads in the Dashboard. This will allow you access to the BA, Cathay and AA lounges, of which the Cathay has the most supporters in this forum.
At T3 and MIA you can alsio just buy your access to other lounges there if you wish, or go to one of the restaurants and find a nice quiet corner to work/relax.
Nov 13, 2017, 9:57 am
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Dear OP - I lurked for about two years and then I came out, FT was a very different animal back then for better or for worse. Once I was out, there was no going back. This is a gold mine - no a Platinum mine of information. These Boys have saved me £££ and got me to Gold.
One thing that I learned a long time ago is that you trust everything that is to do with the whole complexities of dealing with OneWorld in general and BA in particular. As for poeple's opinions, that is their right but it is subjective.
I do hope that you will be glad that you have come out, learn lots as I have done, and have fun.
One thing that I learned a long time ago is that you trust everything that is to do with the whole complexities of dealing with OneWorld in general and BA in particular. As for poeple's opinions, that is their right but it is subjective.
I do hope that you will be glad that you have come out, learn lots as I have done, and have fun.
Nov 13, 2017, 9:58 am
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Let me post my welcome to you dombo17uk, welcome to the BA board here on Flyertalk, thank you for the question and emerging from lurkerlife.
From those numbers, I would say that you don't have much chance of an upgrade leaving London, but you are perhaps in with a small chance on the return. G9 and the other numbers says "this is not a full flight", so the usual rolling forward doesn't appear to be on the card, BA is selling lower priced seats to fill that aircraft up. For the return, on the other hand, it's looking overbooked in WT some something will have to give.
If you want CW on the outbound I think you are looking at perhaps a proactive paid upgrade (POUG) at Online check in stage, or a airport paid upgrade on the day. Possible prices to be found in the relevant threads in the Dashboard. This will allow you access to the BA, Cathay and AA lounges, of which the Cathay has the most supporters in this forum.
At T3 and MIA you can alsio just buy your access to other lounges there if you wish, or go to one of the restaurants and find a nice quiet corner to work/relax.
From those numbers, I would say that you don't have much chance of an upgrade leaving London, but you are perhaps in with a small chance on the return. G9 and the other numbers says "this is not a full flight", so the usual rolling forward doesn't appear to be on the card, BA is selling lower priced seats to fill that aircraft up. For the return, on the other hand, it's looking overbooked in WT some something will have to give.
If you want CW on the outbound I think you are looking at perhaps a proactive paid upgrade (POUG) at Online check in stage, or a airport paid upgrade on the day. Possible prices to be found in the relevant threads in the Dashboard. This will allow you access to the BA, Cathay and AA lounges, of which the Cathay has the most supporters in this forum.
At T3 and MIA you can alsio just buy your access to other lounges there if you wish, or go to one of the restaurants and find a nice quiet corner to work/relax.
Nov 13, 2017, 10:00 am
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Dear OP - I lurked for about two years and then I came out, FT was a very different animal back then for better or for worse. Once I was out, there was no going back. This is a gold mine - no a Platinum mine of information. These Boys have saved me £££ and got me to Gold.
One thing that I learned a long time ago is that you trust everything that is to do with the whole complexities of dealing with OneWorld in general and BA in particular. As for poeple's opinions, that is their right but it is subjective.
I do hope that you will be glad that you have come out, learn lots as I have done, and have fun.
One thing that I learned a long time ago is that you trust everything that is to do with the whole complexities of dealing with OneWorld in general and BA in particular. As for poeple's opinions, that is their right but it is subjective.
I do hope that you will be glad that you have come out, learn lots as I have done, and have fun.
Nov 13, 2017, 10:51 am
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Dear OP - I lurked for about two years and then I came out, FT was a very different animal back then for better or for worse. Once I was out, there was no going back. This is a gold mine - no a Platinum mine of information. These Boys have saved me £££ and got me to Gold.
One thing that I learned a long time ago is that you trust everything that is to do with the whole complexities of dealing with OneWorld in general and BA in particular. As for poeple's opinions, that is their right but it is subjective.
I do hope that you will be glad that you have come out, learn lots as I have done, and have fun.
One thing that I learned a long time ago is that you trust everything that is to do with the whole complexities of dealing with OneWorld in general and BA in particular. As for poeple's opinions, that is their right but it is subjective.
I do hope that you will be glad that you have come out, learn lots as I have done, and have fun.
Welcome OP - fingers crossed for the upgrade!
Nov 13, 2017, 8:05 pm
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Nov 14, 2017, 4:56 am
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That's not really my reading (though your reading could be correct, I just have my doubts). The clues are G0 - so no staff standbys, no BA Holidays are cheapo rates, no Awaydays. O and Q are also out, N the cheapest upgradeable fare is also out. S is just 4. Now this will change over time, but that flight may even be overbooked at least in Club, may also be WTP; if not, my reading is there isn't much more left since they are very soon on to V and L fares, which from Kingston would put the fares out of reach for many people. That make up says to me the have about 7 seats left over the whole aircraft, but BA will sell more since not everyone is going to turn up.
Nov 14, 2017, 12:53 pm
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Thanks everyone for your replies. They are most enlightening.
For the avoidance of doubt (before anyone shouts at me!) I'm not banking on a charm the check-in tactic, I'm just hoping I can bag a good deal at the airport in either direction.
Just hoping things will fill up and work in my favour!
Anyone going to be at T3 on Monday morning? Or MIA Monday afternoon......?!
What's WTP like these days on a 747?
For the avoidance of doubt (before anyone shouts at me!) I'm not banking on a charm the check-in tactic, I'm just hoping I can bag a good deal at the airport in either direction.
Just hoping things will fill up and work in my favour!
Anyone going to be at T3 on Monday morning? Or MIA Monday afternoon......?!
What's WTP like these days on a 747?
Nov 14, 2017, 1:55 pm
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Inbound - J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W5 E3 T1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L8 V4 S4 N0 Q0 O0 G0
That's not really my reading (though your reading could be correct, I just have my doubts). The clues are G0 - so no staff standbys, no BA Holidays are cheapo rates, no Awaydays. O and Q are also out, N the cheapest upgradeable fare is also out. S is just 4. Now this will change over time, but that flight may even be overbooked at least in Club, may also be WTP; if not, my reading is there isn't much more left since they are very soon on to V and L fares, which from Kingston would put the fares out of reach for many people. That make up says to me the have about 7 seats left over the whole aircraft, but BA will sell more since not everyone is going to turn up.
That's not really my reading (though your reading could be correct, I just have my doubts). The clues are G0 - so no staff standbys, no BA Holidays are cheapo rates, no Awaydays. O and Q are also out, N the cheapest upgradeable fare is also out. S is just 4. Now this will change over time, but that flight may even be overbooked at least in Club, may also be WTP; if not, my reading is there isn't much more left since they are very soon on to V and L fares, which from Kingston would put the fares out of reach for many people. That make up says to me the have about 7 seats left over the whole aircraft, but BA will sell more since not everyone is going to turn up.
Nov 14, 2017, 3:17 pm
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Welcome! For what it's worth, keep checking your "Manage my booking" either online or on the app between now and your departure date. Sometimes, an offer of an upgrade will show up inviting you to pay £X to upgrade,
If you are really lucky, you will get a magic beep at the gate and get an op-up.
Realistically though, the common advice here is not to expect anything (that way, you will never be disappointed!), but practically, I have always found myself constantly refreshing my app after check in hoping for a free upgrade (your boarding pass will change if that happens)
If you are really lucky, you will get a magic beep at the gate and get an op-up.
Realistically though, the common advice here is not to expect anything (that way, you will never be disappointed!), but practically, I have always found myself constantly refreshing my app after check in hoping for a free upgrade (your boarding pass will change if that happens)