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Never have enough Avios to use 2 for 1
I never have enough Avios to use my 2 for 1 vouchers which is a real shame. Anyone else in the same boat?
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And I never have enough time for either my 2-4-1s or the CWS Avios mountain.
There's probably a happy middle ground somewhere! |
Originally Posted by GodAtum
(Post 29020672)
I never have enough Avios to use my 2 for 1 vouchers which is a real shame.
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A 2-for-1 comes with at least 15k avios. Which is almost enough for a return in Club Europe. That's not the most optimal use, sure, but I'm thinking Club Europe is nice.
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Originally Posted by GodAtum
(Post 29020672)
I never have enough Avios to use my 2 for 1 vouchers which is a real shame. Anyone else in the same boat?
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I don't have an AMEX so no 2-4-1 voucher either.
Judging by the amount of first world moans you see on here from those who do I reckon I'm the lucky one. :D |
I have been in the opposing situation.....have the 2-4-1s and avios but not the time to use them. I lost both mine and the wives this year due to a large house purchase and the wife giving birth to our son.
This resulted in me adapting to a new strategy as the 2-4-1s no longer suit our needs. The BA Amex has been ditched and the avios are now my own personal stash where I will use them solely to pursue my own particular travel and leisure purposes. Primarily for short sharp trips where the wife would have no interest in coming. For our yearly big holiday with the family (and now little one), which will resume post summer 2018, I will simply suck up the cash fares. It helps that wife likes to go east and thus Qatar helps by killing 2 birds with one stone. A good J class combined with ability to restock my own Avios balance. The moral of the story is that you need to make the system suit your own particular circumstances and not the other way around. Find a sweet spot that works for you and exploit it! |
I think 241 vouchers should be transferable to those flyertalkers who can use them.....it seems such a waste to see so many discounted! 😋😫
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I'd like to use the voucher for long-haul, eg: far east in F. I guess I can buy Avios, 35k for this year and another 35k next year.
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Originally Posted by GodAtum
(Post 29020796)
I'd like to use the voucher for long-haul, eg: far east in F.
Buying 35,000 Avios this year and 35,000 Avios next year, added to your 15,000 from the spend to get your 2-4-1, isn't going to be nearly enough. |
Originally Posted by GodAtum
(Post 29020796)
I'd like to use the voucher for long-haul, eg: far east in F. I guess I can buy Avios, 35k for this year and another 35k next year.
and then cancel the card for a pro-rata refund, (35k subject to being recommended.) |
Originally Posted by d3vski
(Post 29020745)
I have been in the opposing situation.....have the 2-4-1s and avios but not the time to use them. I lost both mine and the wives this year due to a large house purchase and the wife giving birth to our son.
This resulted in me adapting to a new strategy as the 2-4-1s no longer suit our needs. The BA Amex has been ditched and the avios are now my own personal stash where I will use them solely to pursue my own particular travel and leisure purposes. Primarily for short sharp trips where the wife would have no interest in coming. For our yearly big holiday with the family (and now little one), which will resume post summer 2018, I will simply suck up the cash fares. It helps that wife likes to go east and thus Qatar helps by killing 2 birds with one stone. A good J class combined with ability to restock my own Avios balance. The moral of the story is that you need to make the system suit your own particular circumstances and not the other way around. Find a sweet spot that works for you and exploit it! |
Originally Posted by GodAtum
(Post 29020796)
I'd like to use the voucher for long-haul, eg: far east in F. I guess I can buy Avios, 35k for this year and another 35k next year.
There are lots of ways of collecting without stepping foot on a plane. It isn't for everyone (too tedious for me) but taking surveys, Amex churning, Tesco club card, online shopping portals etc etc. |
I had the Amex PP with a £35 annual fee until earlier this year when they decided to scrap the huge fee remission that some of us had. They later reversed their decision but despite three attempts at getting my old card back, I've failed.
I've had an Amex Gold since March and with little prospect of using the 2-4-1, the ability to credit miles to different programmes and the benefits which will pay for the annual fee from next year, I've decided to stick with the Gold card. Added to that, I read the Head for Points article on the new Iberia card with status and I think Raffles is right with his prediction of a future BA credit card. |
A few l/h holidays, with flights and hotels and Avis/BA car rental paid on the BA Amex PP, plus all grocery shopping at home, plus anything/everything we spend abroad ... doesn't seem to be a problem ;)
Nearly 400,000 in the HHA right now. |
Originally Posted by GodAtum
(Post 29020672)
I never have enough Avios to use my 2 for 1 vouchers which is a real shame. Anyone else in the same boat?
I shop at Tesco and have no trouble getting the necessary Avios. My BA Amex spend also gives me a lot of Avios. So too does flying and I also get some from the BA shop. |
Originally Posted by sts603
(Post 29020998)
So what rewards credit card are you using instead?
I'm waiting for a new Lufthansa M&M visa card from MBNA. I reckon I can put through £35k a year and hopefully a 1.25 per £1 rate should allow me to have nearly 100k miles and combined with occasional Star Alliance flights, an F redemption once every 2 years should be realistic. if not, then it's back to the Amex Gold cards. |
Originally Posted by baggageinhall
(Post 29021059)
Added to that, I read the Head for Points article on the new Iberia card with status and I think Raffles is right with his prediction of a future BA credit card. Not as much fun as flying here, there and everywhere to get it right enough but handy for those who'd prefer be on the river bank or golf course. :D |
My problem has been not having enough companions to sit in the 2nd seat.
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Odd position to be in... .
A BA chase 2-4-1 needs a $30k spend - so 30,000 avios, TATL off peak in Y is 26,000. Although I've lost one or two 2-4-1 in past years due to 'unuse', this year I managed to use 3 of them on TATLs, all for a meager 13k avios/pax/trip - who said the big spenders are gone! (I've also done a further 10 TATL redemptions this year...). |
Originally Posted by EuropeanPete
(Post 29023925)
My problem has been not having enough companions to sit in the 2nd seat.
This level of couple bias applies to GUF2 too - although I believe you can use it wastefully for one person, a solo traveller could get more value if they could split it into two GUF1s. If that was the case I would certainly aim for it |
Originally Posted by nh1980
(Post 29024506)
This level of couple bias applies to GUF2 too - although I believe you can use it wastefully for one person, a solo traveller could get more value if they could split it into two GUF1s. If that was the case I would certainly aim for it
I imagine that there may also be a RM effect for 2-4-1s: If BA releases Z1 or U1, it knows that the seat cannot be taken for half the Avios cost using a 2-4-1. That might mean that that single award seat will on average attract a higher yield than each of two seats released as Z2 or U2. All this in the context of an industry in which it's sometimes said that executives would sell their grandmothers for a 2% performance improvement. |
Originally Posted by T8191
(Post 29021063)
plus anything/everything we spend abroad ...
Whilst you can do things to increase your Avios balance godatum, you might be better off saving cash and buying cheap sale tickets with the money saved. |
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